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Offline shreck

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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2008, 11:11:22 PM »
See Rule #5
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2008, 05:23:43 PM »
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That is an absolute fabrication at worst or a misjudgement at best..  We stayed high with a flight of yaks at around 17kish until we saw no more.. Perhaps just a few yaks already engaged..  Flying south we encountered a group of il2s around 12-14k..  3 of us engaged while the il2s pulled evasives from us while watching our attack from external views..  We got a couple and on Fester's zoom out from an attack got 1 ping that got his vert stab I believe..  I made one more boom and zoom on a group of 2-3 il2s.. missing my attack do to poor aim and the il2's external view.. on my zoom up at around 300-350mph I see a il2 600d on my 6 closing very fast.. Obviously my turn was poor because i died, but who'd have thought I'd get bad by a il2. lol  

There was no ganging that killed us.. Just a set of unfortunate events.. and perhaps even a touch of swayed rules..

External views should be disabled on iL2s (and all bombers for that matter).. Its bad enough having to dodge 3-4 of them at a time all firing headon at you, but to also have the upper hand taken away (il2's 6 Oclock) where the 109 can excel is a little too much in a realistic scene...

Do 110s (German's only bomber) have external views? no, I didn't think so..


i saw what i saw and i filmed it too i am not trying to slam anyone just offered another point of view of the situation ,, but i dam sure don't appreciate you calling me a liar in not so many words isn't it always easier to cry fowl then really tulips your performance  the truth hurts but before you all cry fowl look at the man in the mirror

but fear not  , i will never offer any advice or constructive criticism to the muppets because you all obviously know it all

 have a great day Richard ...:aok :ROFL
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2008, 05:25:35 PM »
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I was one of those il2's I can say for sure I had my views internal, I'm pretty sure the rest of GIAP had theirs on internal as well. We're not the "gameing" type. Bear in mind that the il2 is pretty much one of our squads' bread and butter planes, we know how to use it's strengths well. Don't go complaining about the fact you guys followed us down to the deck where you could be ganged, that's not our problem. We were at 10k when we encountered you, and we let you come in and then dove to get our E up to be comparable, we then used that  advantage once we had you down there. The il2's cannon are deadly against armour, even more so against aircraft.


funny i am not the only one that saw it like that
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2008, 06:15:14 PM »
Well, I certianly didnt see it like that redrum/SD67.. I was not ganged.. nor was I on the deck when I died.. nor was I in a position to be ganged..  I'm still not certain why you guys keep saying I/we were ganged.. Its this simple fact redrum, that I said what I did..  So, lets say it was a misjudgement on your part.

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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2008, 06:19:05 PM »
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See Rule #5


and what excuse is that? my excuse was my pooraim/poor SA... what was the real excuse i'm missing?

I mean damn shreck.. I hadn't realized we'd caused you so much trauma in the MA that on one occasion the muppets not dominating would bring such joy to you..kinda funny I think..  I guess if its all you got.. Good for you! 8)
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2008, 06:28:22 PM »
OK, that's enough.

You guys may continue this in the O'club if you wish.
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2008, 07:10:06 PM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 08:51:42 PM »
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Shreck, Is there something about my above post you didn't understand?
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 10:25:52 PM »
You might as well lock it...

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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2008, 11:00:52 AM »
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Shreck, Is there something about my above post you didn't understand?


Only the typical male desire to have the last word!! I'm done  sorry!

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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2008, 12:10:04 PM »
Shreck, if you wish to continue being a member of this bulletin board, then you need to leave the ego at the door.  If you, or anyone else, cannot abide by the forum posting rules, then we certainly have options to take care of that.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2008, 12:42:16 AM »
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its bad enough flying a 1943 109g6 vs 1944 la5fn and yak9u. both of which can run away at will. then having an artificial altitude cap that cant be crossed at all even when fighting negating the only advantage the 50mph slower g6 has... climb rate and alt performance.

but when you have what are supposed to be heavy and slugish il2 ground attack aircraft doing the up down +/- g warp evasion and flying their screwed up FM with lazer guns in a dogfight killing 109s with 1 ping all immersion is lost. I wouldnt doubt it if the il2s even had external views enabled. that would be icing on the cake if that was so. they sure had no trouble seeing planes in their blindspots.

this event is so screwed up its not even worth flying. hope the next one is less lopsided.


Hopefully Fester, The introduction of the P-39 will help to remedy one of the biggest problems' that we have in scenario's, snapshots, and FSO's: The holes in the planeset. Eventually, we'll be able to weed some of these things' out. Great work on the P-39, BTW :aok

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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2008, 01:48:49 PM »
seems the gondolas were my problem in frame 2 made my g6 wallow around and get run down by il2s in a zoom climb :D

i left the gondolas off in frame 3 and had fun running down la5's and yaks :)
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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2008, 02:09:39 PM »
So Fester, is it safe to say you are withdrawing these comments?



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this event is so screwed up its not even worth flying.


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and since it is clear no one is interested in a realistic 1943 scenario........
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2008, 03:35:40 PM »
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