Author Topic: The honorable Ted Kennedy (Read 3587 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:28:40 PM »

yeah.. most people have a few thousand rounds except those who don't have any at all and they.. are constantly trying to figure out a way to take away the guns and ammo of those who have em.

It doesn't matter how much it hurts them politically... taking away guns is soooooo important to them that they can't help themselves.

Why would I listen to anyone as sick as that?

lazs

TwentyFo · « **Reply #76 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:34:44 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
yeah.. most people have a few thousand rounds except those who don't have any at all and they.. are constantly trying to figure out a way to take away the guns and ammo of those who have em.

It doesn't matter how much it hurts them politically... taking away guns is soooooo important to them that they can't help themselves.

Why would I listen to anyone as sick as that?

lazs

Exactly, people who want gun control are sick and twisted. Since when has a firearm ever hurt anyone? I can't think of one. What we need is people control. The people are the problem. Get rid of the people and there will be nobody to use the guns. Problem solved

john9001 · « **Reply #77 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:49:08 PM »

the liberals are fighting among themselves, half want a women president and half want a black president.

they should have supported Cynthia McKinney for president.

lazs2 · « **Reply #78 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:49:48 PM »

twnenty...I don't think you quite get the point..

get rid of the bad people... change human nature and no one will need guns... not even.. or especially.... the government.

You prove my point... guns are so important to you that you can't allow them. Nothing else matters.. if allowing people the right to defend themselves is on the table then you can't get past it.

I am no different.. so long as you are trying to take away my right to defend myself.. there is no point in listening to anything else you have to say.

Which of us is right? well.. I am about choice and you are about control of what should be peoples rights.

I have no problem with laws that make it illegal to use firearms for immoral purposes. Once you catch someone doing so you can punish them. You want to punish people for something they haven't done... will most likely never do..

but not all.. you want to allow the government and bodyguards of the elite and such to stay armed cause... well.. they are too important to not need to defend themselves and.. they are just superior beings in any case right? movie stars and rich people and politicians and cops all need protection but it is just dangerous folly for the rest of us.

lazs

Arlo · « **Reply #79 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:51:29 PM »

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Originally posted by 68ROX
Amazingly, history has proven that the US voter DOES pick the better, more experienced candidate over the other.

What history book is that out of?

lazs2 · « **Reply #80 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:54:06 PM »

with arlo on that.. I wouldn't mind knowing what history book that is out of.

lazs

Arlo · « **Reply #81 on:** January 29, 2008, 02:58:01 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
twenty fo.. tell you what.. stop your, and your parties sick obsession with other peoples firearms and we can then talk about the other things.

you guys just can't let it go tho.. no matter how much it hurts you.. guns mean individuality and freedom and utopia has no place for individuality and freedom.

lazs

Says Laz, the "independent" paranoid GOP-hugger that half heartedly supports McCain out of delusional fear of the Democrats taking away his toys (cause they "all" fear and hate them).

Arlo · « **Reply #82 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
the liberals are fighting among themselves, half want a women president and half want a black president.

they should have supported Cynthia McKinney for president.

Seems you have a problem with race or gender fixation. Actually, it appears America (liberal or otherwise - many a Republican included) wants a better president. Extremists of the far right persuasion just want a "Republican" in office (any Republican not extreme enough being branded a "RINO"). They could care less about quality, from what I've seen of the trend, as of late.

TwentyFo · « **Reply #83 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:04:49 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
twnenty...I don't think you quite get the point..

get rid of the bad people... change human nature and no one will need guns... not even.. or especially.... the government.

You prove my point... guns are so important to you that you can't allow them. Nothing else matters.. if allowing people the right to defend themselves is on the table then you can't get past it.

I am no different.. so long as you are trying to take away my right to defend myself.. there is no point in listening to anything else you have to say.

Which of us is right? well.. I am about choice and you are about control of what should be peoples rights.

I have no problem with laws that make it illegal to use firearms for immoral purposes. Once you catch someone doing so you can punish them. You want to punish people for something they haven't done... will most likely never do..

but not all.. you want to allow the government and bodyguards of the elite and such to stay armed cause... well.. they are too important to not need to defend themselves and.. they are just superior beings in any case right? movie stars and rich people and politicians and cops all need protection but it is just dangerous folly for the rest of us.

lazs

Who said I want to take away guns? I know plenty of people who own firearms and have a license to conceal them. The problem is when those guns fall into the wrong hands, i.e. kids or a criminals.

The past few months in Omaha have been pretty rough. In December, as you know, a kid went into the Westroads Mall and killed 9 (including himself). Just this last week a girl was sitting in the drive-thru and was randomly killed by a teenage gunman. Also last week 2 people were shot when a kid decided to bring his assault rifle to his friends house to "show it off". Finally, a few weeks ago a worker at a shooting range was disassembling a gun and accidentally shot a customer. This all happened in Omaha, NE.

I have no problems with guns. However, I would like to see more gun safety/education for those who buy them. I have no problem with people defending themselves. Basically, all I want to see is responsible gun ownership and harsher punishment for those who cannot follow the rules.

Arlo · « **Reply #84 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:06:07 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
You prove my point... guns are so important to you that you can't allow them. Nothing else matters.. if allowing people the right to defend themselves is on the table then you can't get past it.

If your point is proving his assertion that you have a rather unhealthy fixation over guns, he is. He hasn't whined about them, for the most part. He's just teased you for doing such, Laz.

Shamus · « **Reply #85 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:14:48 PM »

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Originally posted by acfireguy26
I have my AR15 and 2000 rnds and an AK47 with 2500 rnds. I thought everybody had that.

And what are you going to do with that?

I get a kick out of all the keyboard warriors here that seem to have this Red Dawn mentality.

Most of them don't have the technology, training or most importantly heart, to execute the grandiose dreams bouncing around in their heads about how they are going to overcome the evil government agents when they finally get fed up by killing them all.

The 2nd amendment is the last hope, and while so many of you guys trumpet the assault on the 4th,5th and 6th amendments as good for law enforcement/terrorist control , you don't seem to realize that as those are watered down it makes it far easier to preemptively neuter the gun owners who are deemed potential trouble makers.

Any of you remember the militia movement of the 90's?, Michigan was a hot bed, and a lot of the folks who did no more than state their rights, were or are doing time in prison.

If you get targeted, don't think that you will get the martyr opportunity of Randy Weaver or David Korresh, law enforcement is far more adept in this day and age.

shamus

TwentyFo · « **Reply #86 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:19:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Shamus
And what are you going to do with that?

I get a kick out of all the keyboard warriors here that seem to have this Red Dawn mentality.

Most of them don't have the technology, training or most importantly heart, to execute the grandiose dreams bouncing around in their heads about how they are going to overcome the evil government agents when they finally get fed up by killing them all.

Exactly.....totally agree.

Shamus · « **Reply #87 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:37:37 PM »

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Originally posted by TwentyFo
Exactly.....totally agree.

You forgot what I thought was the most important part

shamus

Bronk · « **Reply #88 on:** January 29, 2008, 03:46:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Shamus
You forgot what I thought was the most important part

shamus

Selective agreeing.

Airscrew · « **Reply #89 on:** January 29, 2008, 04:03:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Selective agreeing.

Selective agreeing? In the O'club? say it aint so...