The honorable Ted Kennedy

[Arlo]

Originally posted by john9001
Kennedy was a young fool, his daddy bought the election and Kennedy almost got us into WW3 when he and McNamara botched up the bay of pigs invasion.

Too late to try to compare Kennedy to Bush and claim you hold a pair of Jacks.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Xargos
Hillary and Obama are far worse then any King of England ever was.
 

Hellooooo extremist hyperbole.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Very few people know much history about the revolution.  Not counting any struggles caused by war, but we were living better under the King of England then we were under the Confederacy.  And even under the constitution was cutting about even.

Obviously the founding fathers were in complee agreement with you LOL

[Arlo]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Very few people know much history about the revolution.  Not counting any struggles caused by war, but we were living better under the King of England then we were under the Confederacy.  And even under the constitution was cutting about even.

Whoops .... I forgot that since you're working on your undergrad requirements for engineering you suddenly became a history expert ... or at least a rubber of elbows of such. Is History 101 teaching the comparitive liberty regarding slavery during the revolution versus slavery during the American civil war now? Is it selling the U.S. Constitution short regarding amendments afterward? Tell me more about the "better we" living standards for all Americans (or people owned by them) according to a true historical scholar.

[Airscrew]

I dont know what you some of you guys are drinking/smoking/eating but some of you are starting to make Arlo look like a Moderate...

Hillary and Obama are far worse then any King of England ever was.  ?

Kennedy was a young fool, his daddy bought the election and Kennedy almost got us into WW3 when he and McNamara botched up the bay of pigs invasion. ??


arlo, guns are not "toys", but a librul like you would not know that. ???

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Airscrew
I dont know what you some of you guys are drinking/smoking/eating but some of you are starting to make Arlo look like a Moderate...

Hillary and Obama are far worse then any King of England ever was.  ?

Kennedy was a young fool, his daddy bought the election and Kennedy almost got us into WW3 when he and McNamara botched up the bay of pigs invasion. ??


arlo, guns are not "toys", but a librul like you would not know that. ???

Arlo's always been one. No "starting" about it.

Perspective of the paranoiac. Everyone else that doesn't look, sound, smell, feel and taste exactly like me is a threat.

[john9001]

Originally posted by Arlo
They make up all sorts of straw boogymen like "der evul Demo-crat dat hates me havin' guns" or the "socialist commie infiltrator that wants this country to collapse from within by takin' away my guns"  

arlo, you really need to research obama and his voting record. He is supported by anti gun groups and he favors strong gun control laws. Yes he wants to take the guns away from law abiding citizens.

[Airscrew]

I went out for a cigarette and considered the word "moderate"  and figured that probably was already true,  but it was the first thing that popped in my head...

Its really getting ridiculous throwing all these labels around

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by john9001
arlo, you really need to research obama and his voting record. He is supported by anti gun groups and he favors strong gun control laws. Yes he wants to take the guns away from law abiding citizens.

You guys seem to forget we are voting for a President, Not a King... Obama, or Clinton, or McCain, or Rommey or anybody else is not going to have absolute power to take away anybodies guns, knifes, or whatever else... They only do what we allow them to do...  We have control...We just need to remember how to use it...

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Obviously the founding fathers were in complee agreement with you LOL

It was a power grab.  You think the founding fathers honestly cared about freedom?  No politician in the history of the world EVER has cared about freedom.


Point in case, the taxes applied after the signing of the constitution were HIGHER then before the revolution.

[john9001]

obama and a democratic congress, i wonder what gun laws they will pass?

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by john9001
obama and a democratic congress, i wonder what gun laws they will pass?

only the ones we let them get away with...

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Point in case, the taxes applied after the signing of the constitution were HIGHER then before the revolution.

Well how else where they gonna pay for the Revolution?  They knew that when they started.   Nobody said it was going to be cheap...  

The revolution wasnt about taxes, it was about representation, it was about making decisions for the good and the welfare of the people not the King...

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Airscrew
Well how else where they gonna pay for the Revolution?  They knew that when they started.   Nobody said it was going to be cheap...  

The revolution wasnt about taxes, it was about representation, it was about making decisions for the good and the welfare of the people not the King...

You forget that we fought a war before the Revolution.  The British King was taxing England more for OUR WAR than he was taxing us.  


Sure, we didn't have any representation, but to gripe about the "Taxes" is really just a front.  We had a lot more freedom then after the revolution, but this may be attributed to the freedom that being on a frontier affords.

The founding fathers were in it to gain power for themselves.

[john9001]

one of the first things the new govt of the US did was put a tax on whiskey to pay for the war that was fought because of taxes, (irony), result was the whiskey rebellion that Washington had to put down with the militia.