Author Topic: JU-52 ARMED Transport. What say you chaps? (Read 3782 times)

Hazzer · « **Reply #30 on:** January 31, 2008, 09:32:45 AM »

The transport version of the He 111 would be my choice,could carry 16 paratroops and their equipment,also faster than the C47,and the Bomber version is conspicuous by it's absence.

The problem with the Ju 52/3,is speed,or rather lack of it.

swareiam · « **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2008, 11:00:51 AM »

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Originally posted by trigger2
I'll take the best of you two guys' worlds...

The FW 200 Condor!!!

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There were three versions - the Fw 200A, B, and C. The Model A was a purely civilian plane used by Lufthansa, DDL in Denmark, and Syndicato Condor in Brazil. The Fw 200B and Fw 200C models were used as long-range bombers, reconnaissance, troop and transport planes.

Type: Maritime reconaissance bomber, missle platform, and transport
Origin: Focke Wulf Flugzeugbau GmbH, in partnership with Hamburger Flugzeugbau (Blohm und Voss)
Engine:
Type: BMW-Bramo Fafnir 323R-2 nine-cylinder radial
Number: Four
Horsepower:
1,200hp at 2,600rpm with Methanol-water injection for take-off and emergency
1,000hp at 2,500rpm at sea level
950hp at 2,500rpm at 13,124ft (4,000m)

Fuel:
Standard Fuel Capacity: 1,773 Imperial Gallons (8,060 Liters)
Overload Fuel Capacity: 2,190 Imperial Gallons (9,955 Liters)
Type: N/A

Dimensions:
Wing span 32.84m
Length 23.46m
Height: 6.3m
Wing Surface Area: 1,270.14 Sq. Ft.

Weights:
Empty: 12,951kg (28,550 lbs.)
Loaded: 22,700kg (50,045 lbs.)

Performance: Fw 200 C-3/U4

Maximum Speed:
190mph (306kph) at sea level
224mph (360kph) at 15,750ft (4,800m)

Maximum Continuous cruise:
172mph (277kph) at sea level
208mph (355kph) at 13,125ft (4,000m)

Economy cruise:
158mph (255kph)

Range at Economy Cruise:
2,210 mls (3,556 km) With Standard Fuel
2,760 mls (4,440 km) With Overload Fuel

Service Ceiling: 19,030ft (5800m)

Armament:
Forward Dorsal Turret:
One 15mm MG 151/15, One 20mm MG 151/20 Or One 7.92mm MG 15 with 1,000 rnds mounted in hydralically operated FW 19 turret
Ventral Gondola:
One 20mm MG 151/20 with 500 rnds. manually aimed at front
One 7.92mm MG 15 with 1,000 rnds. manually aimed at rear

Beam:
Two 7.92mm MG 15 Or Two 13mm MG 131 with 300 rnds.

Aft Dorsal Position:
One 13mm MG 131 with 500 rnds.

Bomb Load:
4,626 lbs. (2100kg) carried in ventral gondola and beneath wings

Missle Load: (C-6 to C-8 models)
Two Hs 293 Anit-Ship Missles under outboard nacells

Avionics:
Fw 200 C-8: Fug 200 Hohentwiel Search And Bombing Radar

Now, why would you want a four engine bomber that only carries 4000 lbs. of ord and cruises @ 208 mph? Along with the reported weak landing gear and poor structural integrity.

The anti-ship missle is a cool idea.

IMO, The Condor doesn't qualify.

Cheers:aok

angelsandair · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2008, 12:31:41 AM »

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Originally posted by swareiam
Although some what slower than a skytrain. The JU-52 would in a mass drop or even individually have as much chance as a 110, A-20, Boston, or Il-2 to defend itself on its mission. Once spotted the C-47 has one chance, make your persuier auger. It happens occasionally...

Soviet bombers are a fair choice, but german bombers would add nothing but additional fodder to the game. Somewhat like the B-25 is now. The B-25 was not even good enough for the Allied commander to choose for the recent AvA.

British main battle tank. Good choice.

But again the JU-52 adds utility, choice and some defense.

Cheers:aok

YES WE NEED THE JU-52!!! I HATE GOONS CAUSE I DONT HAVE A CHANCE IN EM, I WOULD RATHER TAKE A CRUDDY SLOW M-3!!!!!!:noid

angelsandair · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2008, 12:33:50 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by trigger2
I'll take the best of you two guys' worlds...

The FW 200 Condor!!!

There were three versions - the Fw 200A, B, and C. The Model A was a purely civilian plane used by Lufthansa, DDL in Denmark, and Syndicato Condor in Brazil. The Fw 200B and Fw 200C models were used as long-range bombers, reconnaissance, troop and transport planes.

Type: Maritime reconaissance bomber, missle platform, and transport
Origin: Focke Wulf Flugzeugbau GmbH, in partnership with Hamburger Flugzeugbau (Blohm und Voss)
Engine:
Type: BMW-Bramo Fafnir 323R-2 nine-cylinder radial
Number: Four
Horsepower:
1,200hp at 2,600rpm with Methanol-water injection for take-off and emergency
1,000hp at 2,500rpm at sea level
950hp at 2,500rpm at 13,124ft (4,000m)

Fuel:
Standard Fuel Capacity: 1,773 Imperial Gallons (8,060 Liters)
Overload Fuel Capacity: 2,190 Imperial Gallons (9,955 Liters)
Type: N/A

Dimensions:
Wing span 32.84m
Length 23.46m
Height: 6.3m
Wing Surface Area: 1,270.14 Sq. Ft.

Weights:
Empty: 12,951kg (28,550 lbs.)
Loaded: 22,700kg (50,045 lbs.)

Performance: Fw 200 C-3/U4

Maximum Speed:
190mph (306kph) at sea level
224mph (360kph) at 15,750ft (4,800m)

Maximum Continuous cruise:
172mph (277kph) at sea level
208mph (355kph) at 13,125ft (4,000m)

Economy cruise:
158mph (255kph)

Range at Economy Cruise:
2,210 mls (3,556 km) With Standard Fuel
2,760 mls (4,440 km) With Overload Fuel

Service Ceiling: 19,030ft (5800m)

Armament:
Forward Dorsal Turret:
One 15mm MG 151/15, One 20mm MG 151/20 Or One 7.92mm MG 15 with 1,000 rnds mounted in hydralically operated FW 19 turret
Ventral Gondola:
One 20mm MG 151/20 with 500 rnds. manually aimed at front
One 7.92mm MG 15 with 1,000 rnds. manually aimed at rear

Beam:
Two 7.92mm MG 15 Or Two 13mm MG 131 with 300 rnds.

Aft Dorsal Position:
One 13mm MG 131 with 500 rnds.

Bomb Load:
4,626 lbs. (2100kg) carried in ventral gondola and beneath wings

Missle Load: (C-6 to C-8 models)
Two Hs 293 Anit-Ship Missles under outboard nacells

Avionics:
Fw 200 C-8: Fug 200 Hohentwiel Search And Bombing Radar

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