Author Topic: Hillary / Obama Debate (Read 1723 times)

Sandman · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2008, 12:27:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager

She gets paid for her opinion. do you

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Just as much as you.

Got an opinion?

BiGBMAW · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2008, 12:37:44 PM »

They completely glossed over the illegals...and drivers license...what a bunch scum bags..I hope they all burn in hell..typical pork sucking gov types..both of them

Btw..MT has your life been so miserable the last 8 years?...I doubt it..I bet your actually doing better then you were 8 years ago..

and You democrat say Slick willy didn't spend much..Great Surplus!!!...Do you think The middle east planned all this hatred and 9-11 attacks just during Bushs first few months?...Clueless Dolts If you believe that. Clinton Continued to slash military...and you guys claim Great Leader!!!....

Yeager · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:14:55 PM »

Got an opinion?
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yes. i have an opinion in damned near every subject worth discussing. Coulter for instance, I know it sounds almost nasty but I'd hit it. Her politcs arent impressive at all, but I do like the way she goes after godless liberals.....its just funny to watch/listen to (even though I might be godless.....sometimes).

SaburoS · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:17:30 PM »

What's astounding is how some think there's a big difference between the parties. We still have out of control spending regardless of the party 'in power'.

I'm voting for Ron Paul regardless of who the front runners are (I'm assuming that Paul won't be the Republican nominee).

For those of you that think voting for Paul is a waste if you think he's the best candidate but he won't win anyway, shame on you (self fulfilling prophecy).

Things will stay the same because of that type of thinking.

We will get what we deserve.

sluggish · « **Reply #34 on:** February 01, 2008, 01:23:20 PM »

I have two words for any conservative minded person who might be considering voting for a third party or even writing in their favorite candidate.

ross perot

Hap · « **Reply #35 on:** February 01, 2008, 03:46:27 PM »

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Originally posted by BiGBMAW
They completely glossed over the illegals...and drivers license...what a bunch scum bags..I hope they all burn in hell..typical pork sucking gov types..both of them

[/b] Sorry Big not to be up on what your policy wish-list is. Do you have 3 or 4 do's and don'ts you'd love to see if you were King?

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Originally posted by GiGBMAW
Btw..MT has your life been so miserable the last 8 years?...I doubt it..I bet your actually doing better then you were 8 years ago.

[/b] I understand the question. Besides financial well-being, have you a couple other criteria for deciding who deserves praise and censure?

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Originally posted by BiGBMAW
and You democrat say Slick willy didn't spend much..Great Surplus!!!...Do you think The middle east planned all this hatred and 9-11 attacks just during Bushs first few months?...Clueless Dolts If you believe that. Clinton Continued to slash military...and you guys claim Great Leader!!!....

Perfect point. Animosity and planning predate Bush. Let's say the military budget had not been slashed. Are you thinking the added money would have resulted in intelligence that would have thwarted 9/11? Lastly, what would have been the result, do you guess, of a non-slashed military budget upon hatred and planning of the bad guys?

WWhiskey · « **Reply #36 on:** February 01, 2008, 04:03:18 PM »

As an outside observer (republican)
My thoughts on Obama and Hillary are that she will say anything she has too in order to get your vote!
I think that Obama will tell you more about what he thinks than what you want too hear,(this is a good thing!)
at least untill he gets the nomination, and i think he might just get it!
then all H E double hickey sticks are going to rain down on him for his past lack of patriotism, TRUE or NOT!
The best possible race (in my opinion) would be Obama against McCain,
as you would have new ideas and fresh blood against an older statesman with time in congress and good ideas on how to get things done!

With Mccain your safe for another 4 too 8 years and you get too see what Obama does with the next part of his political career, then if he is as good as his suporters think, then let him try again! he is a young man with plenty of time to be president later in life!

Mccain was not my first choice but i will vote for him if he gets the nomination, the other choice is just not an option for me!
Maybe if Bill Richardson would have made it then i could vote for him as a dem. or Lieberman,
but not Hillary, for the simple fact she has full hate and discontent for the armed forces, and treats the people around her like second class citizens!

I also am not ready to put Obama into power mainly because of his lack of experiance but also because of his background, (still seems to be a bit of a mystery that will probably be sorted out in his near future)
but who knows in 4 too 8 years he will have had time too prove that the best interest's of THIS country are what he has at the top of his list!

john9001 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 01, 2008, 04:04:03 PM »

it wasn't just the military budget that was cut, the intelligence budget was also cut and the clinton administration decided that is was not nice to use informants that were "bad guys", so they got rid of the "bad guy" informants and crippled the intelligence gathering capability of our govt, it is possible that without the cuts the 9-11 attack might have been stopped.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:00:39 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Mainly health care reform, fiscal responsibility.

Now those two sentances should never be places on the same line together.

I heard both talking about this last night.

My main question is "How ya gonna pay for it."

Just letting the bush tax cuts expire for those making more then 200K aint gonna do it by itself.
And they are talking about tax breaks. and eliminating income tax for a portion of the population.

Then they were talking about other social programs as well. the names of which escape me at the moment.
Again. These are going to cost money.

If they can do it. great. But where's the money going ot come from?

With health care services what your going ot end up with is a national HMO.
Which means the insurance companies are goingot dictate what and how much they are willing to pay for. just as they do now.

Problem with that is for example. you need an operation. And after that operation typically to be safe the doctors and the hospital would like you to remain under superviced care for lets say 3 days..
But the insurance cos are nly willing ot pay X amount

so you know what happens. you get the surgery. and then the hospital discharges you in 1 or 2 days because what the insurance companies wont pay enough to cover the costs for the care you need and the hospitals cant afford to keep you there for free..

And thats how I know how it works. I know someone in the finance Dept at a hosp[ital and My wife see's it every day working at one.

now multiply this over millions of people.

Its all gonna cost. doctors cant and wont work for free, and hospitals cant afford to stay open if they arent going to get paid what they need to operate.

The idea is a great one. great thought.
It just isnt goiing to work without bankrupting us all

And thats not even includng the other social programs they are goingot want to pass.
that are also going to cost money

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:03:28 PM »

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Originally posted by acfireguy26
True, and if I thought he had a snow balls chance in.......well I would vote for him.

Yanno I bet if everyone voted for him that felt that they would vote for him if he had a chance.

I bet he'd win.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:05:51 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I would hold my nose and vote for mc cain. He is only half democrat.. billary and osamabama are pure-dee 100% socialist democrat.

The democrats want to "help" the worthless and illegal in order to buy their vote. The republicans want to help the rich to get contributions..

the middle class pays for it all. Less government is the only real way.

lazs

so your voting for Paul?

Thought you said at the beginning of your post that you'd vote for McCain?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #41 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:25:02 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Clinton balanced the budget when he was in officeAssistance - should be limited and focused on removing people from the welfare roles.

Yes but didnt clinton do it by being able to reach across the isle and work with a Rep congress?

Hillary shows no signs whatsoever of being willing to reach across the isle on anything.

Thats the part about her that disturbs me most.

If you watched last nights debate. Whats she said the most was how she didnt like the Republicans. It was almost as if she were seething with hate.

With her attitude she is going to ailientate a huge segment of the population and what we are going to end up with is yet another devisive president.

Obama is IMO the lessor of two Evils.
Personally I hope he wins the nomination so I dont feel like Im being blackmailed into having to vote Republican again.

One line of pure BS hillary stated last night was about the tax cuts when she said taxes would "go back to their pre cut levels. and I remember people were doing pretty good at that tax rate."

VERY poor memory Hillary.

Some of us actually remember recent history.
At the time those tax cuts went into effect we were in a recession. Which started during your husbands presidency.
And people were NOT doing so well at that time.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #42 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »

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Originally posted by SaburoS
What's astounding is how some think there's a big difference between the parties. We still have out of control spending regardless of the party 'in power'.

I'm voting for Ron Paul regardless of who the front runners are (I'm assuming that Paul won't be the Republican nominee).

For those of you that think voting for Paul is a waste if you think he's the best candidate but he won't win anyway, shame on you (self fulfilling prophecy).

Things will stay the same because of that type of thinking.

We will get what we deserve.

Exactly. Each side has become corrosive to the country as a whole.
By voting for either party only . your just contributing to the corrosion like water on rust

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 01, 2008, 06:54:14 PM »

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Originally posted by sluggish
I have two words for any conservative minded person who might be considering voting for a third party or even writing in their favorite candidate.

ross perot

From what I've read, Ross Perot stole more votes from the democrats, then he did from the republicans.

sluggish · « **Reply #44 on:** February 01, 2008, 07:21:52 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
From what I've read, Ross Perot stole more votes from the democrats, then he did from the republicans.

Well, I'll tell you... I voted for him as well as A LOT of my friends at the time. If he hadn't been there I, as well as many people that I know, definately would have voted for Bush. There is already talk of Huckabee intentionally sticking in the race (even though he doesn't have a snowball's chance) just to draw vote away from Romney so that johnny mcclain will get the nomination. Johnny has probably offered him a juicy cabinet position to stick around...