Author Topic: Hillary / Obama Debate (Read 1792 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #60 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:33:50 AM »

moot... look where protest voting has lead is a better way to put it.

Imagine if everyone would have voted against LBJ for instance... everyone who voted independent. LBJ getting in was the worst thing that has happened to the country. No republican could have made it so bad.. anyone but LBJ would have been a great thing.

I believe that osamabama or billary will be the same as letting in another LBJ... maybe worse. we are strained to the limit now on socialism.. heap one more biggie like socialized medicine on the heap and it's all over...

serfdom for all.. the poor and the young see nothing wrong with that tho... after all.. the middle class is "rich" the real rich don't care... the more serfs.. the more rich they are. The democrat politicians don't care.. the more serfs with no power the better.. stalin never got cold or hungry or went without mansions or hookers or whatever he wanted..

lazs

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #61 on:** February 02, 2008, 02:49:43 PM »

Laz.

Honestly. the more I hear you talk. the more Im convinced that if Satan himself were running for the Republicans. And Christ for the Democrats.

You would still push the republican vote as being the lessor of two evils.

sluggish · « **Reply #62 on:** February 02, 2008, 06:18:59 PM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Laz.

Honestly. the more I hear you talk. the more Im convinced that if Satan himself were running for the Republicans. And Christ for the Democrats.

You would still push the republican vote as being the lessor of two evils.

Thast's just silly. Everybody knows that Christ would run as an independant and get crucified in the general election.

MORAY37 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 03, 2008, 10:07:13 AM »

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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Since 1989, only two famillies ruled USA. I will not vote for Hillary just to brake the monopolistic cycle.

I'll not vote for Obama because he is a muslim, and will be sworn in on the Koran.

Now THAT is some deep political analisys.

Wow. And you're wrong. He is Christian.

.... and you're a moron for even making a statement like that.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #64 on:** February 03, 2008, 10:28:47 AM »

I'm not a moron ... I'm from the internet ...

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 03, 2008, 10:46:00 AM »

dred.. make some sense.

Which time in the last 30 years has the republican NOT been the lesser of two evils? I bet if you take a test and it is multiple choice..and.. all the correct answers are "b".. you would write in some "c" ones just because you can't believe all the answers are "b".

The clash came at FDR.. he was the first real evil democrat.. the first anti american.. but.. LBJ was the first modern democrat.. all are modeled on him.. with a heavy dose of estrogen added lately to make it even worse.

For those of you who think that there is no difference between candidates I invite... no... dare.. you to look at the judges appointed by both democrats and republicans (republicans have made a few mistakes but..) and.. look at all the gun laws and votes.

I think our courts are a very big deal. I think gun laws are a very big deal..

I think arresting employers of illegals is a very big deal... I think not building refineries or nuke plants or drilling for oil in Alaska or off the coast is a very big deal..

How is $150 a month sewer bill or $6 a gallon gas gonna make you better off?

How is a health care system run like social security gonna help us? another democrat ponzie scheme.

lazs

midnight Target · « **Reply #66 on:** February 03, 2008, 10:55:11 AM »

lazs, our current system is the Ponzi scheme. Old Americans spend every dollar they have and then go into back breaking debt in their golden years unless they were fortunate enough to earn enough for a retirement plan, or even less likely worked for a company that provides a retirement plan. How much different would life be if we didn't sweat sickness as a road to bankruptcy?

lazs2 · « **Reply #67 on:** February 03, 2008, 11:07:01 AM »

mt..you are correct.. the democrats have made sure that we have no real retirement plan and that even the ponzie scheme they have given us will be bankrupt.. cheating all those who are young and paying into it now. I expect to get very little of the money I put into it...

I will be punished for having the foresight to have a better retirement plan.. they will take the money I have put in and give it to someone who never put a dime into the system.

Just like they will take any money I put into health care and give it to someone who never put a dime into it.

for what most people spend on cable tv they could get health insurance that carried a high deductible.. about like on their car.

If your transmission goes out.. you pay the 3 grand and get it fixed.. you don't go into a rage about the insurance company and demand that the government "fix" car insurance so that breakdowns don't put you in the poorhouse.

It is not that people can't afford health care so much as that they don't think it important enough to give up their cell phone or cable tv or internet over. and...if it costs them anything.. they somehow feel cheated..

Why do you feel it is ok for me to pay for someone elses health care?

lazs

midnight Target · « **Reply #68 on:** February 03, 2008, 11:12:40 AM »

3k is nothing when you're talking about health care costs, but you know that already. A simple surgury will cost you your house, or the equivalent. You can rail about cell phones and TV all you want, but there are plenty of people out there who will be destitute due to health care costs that don't fall into your little pigeon hole. Why are we the ONLY western country that does not provide health care for our people?

lazs2 · « **Reply #69 on:** February 03, 2008, 11:21:43 AM »

you missed the point.. 3k is the deductible. If you have something major done or.. just year to year.. you pay the first 3k.. like the deductible on your car insurance.

Why are we the only western country to not provide health care? why are we different than your-0-peeans at all is your real question... There are lots of areas that we differ from your-0-peeans.. I happen to like it that way.

We have lots of things that are different.. more home ownership for instance.. more guns more freedom.. Why should I be forced to pay for other peoples health care?

And of course.. that is what will come up.. the people you weep for.. the poor slobs who are awash in medical bills will still exist.. they will be blamed for the failed ponzie health scheme and laws will have to be passed to ban their unhealthy life style. fatty laws... that kind of thing.

your-0-peean lifestyle and ways are not a perfect fit for us.. that is what the democrats and socialists fail to see... we are far too individualist and stubborn and driven even at this point. your-0-peeans love their governments and trust them completely.. they have been slaughtered by same over history.. we don't.. We are Americans with a heritage of individual rights and fierce independence.

Sociaized medicine is a step in the wrong direction.

There is room for health care reform but not socialized medicine.

lazs

Eagler · « **Reply #70 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:42:32 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
.. with a heavy dose of estrogen added lately to make it even worse.

ain't that the truth

I think they model their backbone for security and strength after this "warrior":

if it were up this loser ww2 gb/europe would have turned out as they want Iraq to.

SaburoS · « **Reply #71 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:47:24 PM »

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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I'm not a moron ... I'm from the internet ...

Yeah, get it right!
That makes us all retarded!

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #72 on:** February 03, 2008, 01:18:36 PM »

sluggish · « **Reply #73 on:** February 03, 2008, 05:05:54 PM »

Huckabee could effect Super Tuesday

This is exactly what I was talking about. I bet there has been a back-room deal struck.

Toad · « **Reply #74 on:** February 03, 2008, 06:48:32 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
[Bimplemented this and Clinton balanced the budget when he was in office.)
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History is so inconvenient.

AS I pointed out in another thread:

During Bill Clinton's Presidency there was an overall steady downward trend in spending for both terms considering Bush 1's spending. Democrats controlled both houses of Congress for the first 2 years of Clinton's first term. Republicans took control of both houses of Congress for the last 6 years of the Clinton presidency. So the last 75% of those declining years the Congress was totally under Republican control.

You might remember that the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994 led to a push for a balanced budget as part of the Republican Contract with America campaign.

The historical fact is that a Republican Congress balanced the budget and Clinton was forced to go along with it. No way he could have not accepted a balanced budget sent to him by both houses of Congress.

Sorry for injecting a little reality into that stroll down memory lane.