Author Topic: Small AH community groups within the AH COMMUNITY (Read 1595 times)

TequilaChaser · « **on:** February 03, 2008, 07:48:08 AM »

I tryed to do a search for anything in regards to this subject.but after being in Aces High since there was what 5 to 8 planes total when I 1st played it in 99?( memory is that bad really ).....I know one thing to be certian..Aces High, like Warbirds, like Air Warrior, like Fighter Ace or any other flight sim...still has its seperated groups within the overall community............and always will have this type of seperation on what people want.......

It would be nice to see HTC come up with a plan to provide a few more opportunitys similar to the following:

A less intense realism Arena, where it is easier than we currently have, where new flyers or players just wanting a "game", and want to play without going thru an intense learning curve
A more intense Full Tilt realism Arena, where it is even more advanced than we currently have, where only the truely dedicated to learn the most come to, and try to excel or improve their abilitys
Seperated Theatre of Operations: European theatre ( no pacific plane sets perhaps )
Pacific theatre of Operations - improve the design of maps/terrains to include more naval battles and island hoping campaigns
Axis vs Allied Arena -(we already have this, and AvsA staff have strived to make it better, hope they succeed )
a true FighterTown Arena ( both arcade type & Advanced/entensed Ful Realism Arenas )
do away with the DA, or improve on it / or pick some public Arena Police, toinsure quality fights
The SEA and the TA do not need any major improvements, they serve their purpose greatly

we have Skinners, Terrain/map builders, Scenario designers, movie / art makers, historians, you name it, their are many individual groups of people within Aces High.........I truely believe Aces High would accel even more if they were to offer such arenas for the player base, and people here would enjoy the game that much more........with the divided arenas, people would not have the trouble of trying to get in to certian arenas as well during peak times. I know ( least I think I do, that HTC might look at it as dividing the community, but I look at it as offering each player type more opportunities or avenues of game play, the only dividing would be of the way people want to play, but as a Community as a whole, we all would still be the Aces high Community, we would just have small little townships within - wait : Aces High as a "City" with individual small little community or townships )

we already have a few of these already - we have AvsA arena, we have Early war arena, Midwar Arena, LAteWar arena, and KOTH........and snapshots, the AHERL (racing ), we have FSO and we have scenarios........

this approach would just take it to a higher level and offer more to everyone......

~SALUTE~

The Fugitive · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2008, 09:31:19 AM »

I don't think this would help that much. You would split the arena population more than it is now. You'd end up with small groups milkrunning bases all the time, and everyone complaining about not having any one to fight.

Blooz · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2008, 09:43:26 AM »

Dang TC..

You on some strong meds or what?

yanksfan · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2008, 10:19:33 AM »

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Originally posted by The Fugitive
I don't think this would help that much. You would split the arena population more than it is now. You'd end up with small groups milkrunning bases all the time, and everyone complaining about not having any one to fight.

Actually, I think it's a good idea. if done over time as part of an overhauling plan.

we have a large community right now, It's already split into smaller groups, we only hear from the ones that use the boards, which is a group in and of itself. The BBS group may be a small percentage of the whole and may reflect a sample opinion of the entire community. But I don't think it does accurately as for the most part I see the same voices I have seen here since I started playing. And the population has grown alot.

i think more options is the way to go, in time you will see how things shake out and arenas can be changed agian, groups will form, unform, and change, change isn't bad, the lack of change is what causes problems.

Just my .02 Don

And don't forget about "CT" which will be out in 2 weeks:D

Blooz · « **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:04:09 PM »

Out of the five regular combat arenas only LW arena gets decent numbers.

To subdivide further wouldn't do any good.

When Combat Tour goes live. Forget it. Even the LW arena will suffer population loss.

Subdivide the subscribers down to 800 different style arenas with one person in each. Where will you be then? Shadow boxing?

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:29:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Blooz
Out of the five regular combat arenas only LW arena gets decent numbers.

To subdivide further wouldn't do any good.

When Combat Tour goes live. Forget it. Even the LW arena will suffer population loss.

Subdivide the subscribers down to 800 different style arenas with one person in each. Where will you be then? Shadow boxing?

you not thinking with open mind, Blooz

we have more than just "800" subscribers, we are well over 6,000+

when CT goes live, I doubt the hit will be of any large size, CT from my understanding is for a different type of player, this game has many who come here, find the learning curve "TOO HARD" and never stay any length of time....

some people who played in them other sims, never stuck around for Aces High, this would offer them an opportunity to possibly come back......

you would also, perhaps, see less whines.....

I never said 800 seperate arenas I said offer more opportunities of differing gameplay...and simply gave a few examples of what might could be done......

geez, some of you are so NEGATIVE.......

but we all are intitled to our own thoughts and opinions

~SALUTE~

( I got your PM, Don, will shoot you an email soonas possible )

AKDogg · « **Reply #6 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:55:47 PM »

In AW we had something like this. We had a relaxed realism Europe and Pacific arenas. Then u also had the Full Realism Pacific and europe arenas. We also had a WW1 era along with a Korean arenas. Still think that was the best setup of all the Flight Sims I have played online.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:59:11 PM »

My one curiousity would be to see the numbers if there was one arena labeled "Air Combat", where ACM would be the focus, and another labeled "Campaign", or something similar that made it clear the emphasis was on land grab and base capture.

I wonder what the split would be like?

While I agree that there are small groups of people within the game with like interests, the main groups seem to involve either the ACM crowd or the Land Grab crowd, with the corresponding friction being between the two over which is the 'better' style.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:59:38 PM »

I don't know, it's got some merits. I don't think it would be all that great without robust plane sets, which won't happen while they're still dicking with CT, but it could work, I think.

Does anyone think the overall situation with the community is much better than it was 2 years ago? I don't, and I don't see the harm in trying some new ideas. It seems that a lot of people aren't going to remain enthusiastic about a game that never changes, while the NBT remains in development indefinitely.

The new customers, for the most part, don't seem to be hardcore simgeeks from AW and WB anymore- they're a bunch of kids who have grown to expect change, expansion, and new titles coming out constantly. They're not going to stick around here for years like the rest of us. Something's got to keep them coming in, and it's not going to be a complete and total lack of updates or expansions, or a refusal to impliment new ideas and concepts. That may have worked in the past, but I don't think that's going to let them compete with the MMRPGs and console games anymore.

AKDogg · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2008, 01:03:48 PM »

In AW, we had Europe planesets and Pacific planesets for that specific arena. IE. Pacific arena had only Pacific era planes used in that area in WWII and same goes for Europe based plaesets in Europe arena.

O and we didn't have near the planesets we have here so I think it would be much better represented now more then in AW.

WWM · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2008, 01:25:31 PM »

Funny how the notion that if an arena has low numbers then it isn't working.

Some peoples trash is others treasure.

Ghosth · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2008, 01:37:40 PM »

I'd really like to see HTC take something like the early war arena. Do something totally different with it for a tour or 2. Just to see what would happen.

Could be a early/mid war setup with Raf/USA planes enabled for one country, Axis rides for a 2nd, and Russian planes for the 3rd country.

Could be a short icon range no field capture close fields dogfighting arena for a tour or 2.

Or heaven forbid, give us a Bombers heaven for a tour, with limited bases for fighters to go hunting, lots & lots bomber bases, and targets to work over.

A couple of hours to pick a terrain, setup planes and options available, just might rejuvenate a lot of guys to fly again. To explore new options, new techniques.

Anyone ever really considered what it would take to set up a primo GV only arena? No planes allowed? Or perhaps no bombers/ord available?
So planes would take a back seat to GV vs GV action?

Something perhaps a bit more long term than the AvA, perhaps not quite as hard realism, settings wise.

And TC made some very good points also.

What would it really cost?

Lye-El · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2008, 01:48:58 PM »

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Originally posted by AKDogg
In AW we had something like this. We had a relaxed realism Europe and Pacific arenas. Then u also had the Full Realism Pacific and europe arenas. We also had a WW1 era along with a Korean arenas. Still think that was the best setup of all the Flight Sims I have played online.

The trouble with relaxed realism was when you went to full realism you kept stalling and crashing. After several times you got frustrated and just stayed in the relaxed arena. At least I did. Therefore, I would not want to see a "Relaxed Aces High Arena". A person can spend some time in the TA if he/she so desires. If they elect to jump into a combat arena, can't fly their aircraft, and get creamed it was their choice. Mario Brothers version is not needed.

yanksfan · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:07:36 PM »

How about an arena to experiment with different ideas like these, europe, pacific, limited plane sets, two countrys, it could be used as a test bed for ideas B4 they go to MA's.

as far as arenas go, id like to see these,

WWI

early

mid

late

europe

pacific

and maybe korea, altho jets don't float my boat. SE,AVA, DA, and TA maybe even a ground war arena. And as I have said alot of late, H2H with high enough of a player limit to accomidate two squads. i think there are plenty of good ideas out there, i like the late war arenas, but i think an unlimited plane set is what draws the dweebie behavior.

Just my .02

RATTFINK · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:20:10 PM »

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Originally posted by yanksfan
How about an arena to experiment with different ideas like these, europe, pacific, limited plane sets, two countrys, it could be used as a test bed for ideas B4 they go to MA's.

as far as arenas go, id like to see these,

WWI

early

mid

late

europe

pacific

and maybe korea, altho jets don't float my boat. SE,AVA, DA, and TA maybe even a ground war arena. And as I have said alot of late, H2H with high enough of a player limit to accomidate two squads. i think there are plenty of good ideas out there, i like the late war arenas, but i think an unlimited plane set is what draws the dweebie behavior.

Just my .02

WWI...

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Bi-planes would be the shyte!!

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