Author Topic: How Hillary will pay for her universal healthcare plan (Read 3004 times)

WWhiskey · « **Reply #105 on:** February 06, 2008, 10:41:38 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
oil prices are dropping because the speculators think the possible US recession will reduce demand for gas in the US.

YEA thank god for speculators:rofl

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #106 on:** February 07, 2008, 07:55:05 AM »

We will smash through the recession with the advances in biofuel and technology under President Clinton.

lazs2 · « **Reply #107 on:** February 07, 2008, 08:22:40 AM »

2 bighorn.. you say you don't mean free but that you mean "fair and affordable"

Please tell me how you would make it fair and affordable. I don't think you even know what fair is.

How is it not free to people who claim they have nothing?

You and MT say that illigitimate children are not a factor in health care? On what planet? Would you say that more of the "free" health care will go to families that have a mother and a bunch of illigitimate kids by a variety of sperm donors or.. to normal healthy families?

Put simply.. are one parent homes gonna be a burden or not on your "free" system? are non english speaking illegals or recent free pass citizens gonna be more or less of a burden on your "free" health care.. will more of the burden be paid from income coming from the ghetto of from the middle class neighborhoods?

How many drug dealers and gang members will pay into the system? The rich... hardly..

Who does that leave? well.. you have to redefine "rich" down to upper middle class.. the burden will be on the lower middle class and the real middle class...

The area where the real money for socialism lies.

You can't have socialist totalitarianism without destroying the middle class.

lazs

2bighorn · « **Reply #108 on:** February 07, 2008, 01:28:58 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
You and MT say that illigitimate children are not a factor in health care? On what planet? Would you say that more of the "free" health care will go to families that have a mother and a bunch of illigitimate kids by a variety of sperm donors or.. to normal healthy families?

Listen, children are burden every where. In capitalist or communist societies. Humans or buffaloes.
That's how the nature works, or if you're believer, that's how god made the world.
Unless your kids are maggots and will morph into fully grown insects by themselves, you shouldn't argue the issue. We take care of children, no matter what.
If parents aren't capable to do that on their own, for whatever reason, the rest of the society will have to jump in. That's not up for discussion.

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Originally posted by lazs2
you say you don't mean free but that you mean "fair and affordable"

Is that troubling you?

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Originally posted by lazs2
Please tell me how you would make it fair and affordable.

Did you miss something on purpose, or you're natural at it?

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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't think you even know what fair is.

Then, by all means, educate me.
Go ahead, tell us your solution.

lazs2 · « **Reply #109 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:25:24 PM »

please define fair and affordable.

So far as I am concerned it is already pretty much fair and affordable except that.. many who can afford insurance are not buying it. Most can afford $80 or 100 a month for some kind of high deductible health insurance.. they just don't because..

They feel a cell phone of cable tv or a car or internet is more important.. that is their choice.. fair would be to let em do their own medical if they got sick.. pay for it or pray for health.

It is fair in that those who can afford the best care should get the best care.

lazs

Shamus · « **Reply #110 on:** February 07, 2008, 02:33:13 PM »

I notice that the premiums that you cite are going up a bit laz, a few months ago you and I were having a similar discussion and $60.00 a month was the figure that you were quoting.

shamus