Author Topic: McCain vs. Presidential requirements (Read 2502 times)

Chairboy · « **on:** February 05, 2008, 09:19:49 PM »

Section 1 of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution states that a President must be, among other things, a natural born citizen of the United States. How does this affect someone who was born in another country, say, the Panama Canal Zone?

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:22:34 PM »

I believe if he's born to parents' who are U.S. citizen's, even abroad, then the child is a U.S. Citizen as well...Even if they are in China at the time.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:25:52 PM »

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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
I believe if he's born to parents' who are U.S. citizen's, even abroad, then the child is a U.S. Citizen as well...

maybe so, but the requirement is to be a "natural born" citizen. Unfortunately (for America) I believe he was born on a US military base, which meets the "natural born" requirement.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:35:47 PM »

The Manch...errr, Hanoi Candidate.

Chairboy · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:49:37 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen#Children_born_outside_the_United_States_to_American_parents

This describes this as an unanswered question, but notes that the PCZ was under US Sovereignty when he was born.

AWMac · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2008, 09:56:06 PM »

Nice try Chairboy but only Bill Clinton can offer you that cigar.

He's a U.S. Citizen.

Mac

Chairboy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:31:41 PM »

"Nice try"? It's called conversation.

AWMac · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:42:15 PM »

Geez lighten up Nancy, I'm just tuggin yer string.

Mac

AWMac · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:44:00 PM »

BTW McCain took Oklahoma.

Mac

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:21:35 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Nice try Chairboy but only Bill Clinton can offer you that cigar.

He's a U.S. Citizen.

Mac

Arnold Schwartzenegger is also a US Citizen, but he cannot run.

Chairboy is getting to whether being born in the Canal Zone is a Natural Born Citizen.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States..

bsdaddict · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:24:58 PM »

I must be on a bunch or your's ignore list or something. He was born on a military base, that qualifies as "natural born"...

Chairboy · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:36:50 PM »

So if only he was born on some sort of US-by-proxy soil, like maybe an embassy or military base. Was he born on one of those, maybe?

Sandman · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:37:51 PM »

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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
I believe if he's born to parents' who are U.S. citizen's, even abroad, then the child is a U.S. Citizen as well...Even if they are in China at the time.

Winner.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html

Sandman · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:38:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
So if only he was born on some sort of US-by-proxy soil, like maybe an embassy or military base. Was he born on one of those, maybe?

It doesn't matter where he was born.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html

bsdaddict · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:39:20 PM »

for the third time, yes. He was born on a US military installation in Panama.