Author Topic: McCain vs. Presidential requirements (Read 2465 times)

SteveBailey · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:41:27 PM »

Geez.. if Mccain wins the nomination, who are conservatives supposed to vote for? Mccain, Clinton, Obama.... all liberals.

Sandman · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:41:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin

Chairboy is getting to whether being born in the Canal Zone is a Natural Born Citizen.

He's a natural born citizen because of his parents, not his birthplace.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:42:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
It doesn't matter where he was born.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html

to be a "citizen", sure. But the requirement is to be a "natural born" citizen, and luckily for 100-year-war-McCain being born on a military base on foreign soil qualifies as "natural born".

bsdaddict · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:43:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
He's a natural born citizen because of his parents, not his birthplace.

^^

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:44:15 PM »

Unfortunately with the candidates the repoblicans put up.
I see the democrats as a shoe in in the election.

To me its almost as if they conceeded.

Sandman · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:44:58 PM »

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Originally posted by bsdaddict
to be a "citizen", sure. But the requirement is to be a "natural born" citizen, and luckily for 100-year-war-McCain being born on a military base on foreign soil qualifies as "natural born".

Read the code. It defines "natural born."

In McCain's case, I don't believe the location is relevant.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2008, 12:17:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Read the code. It defines "natural born."

The code you posted earlier? The word "natural" doesn't even appear on that page.

Sandman · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2008, 12:26:13 AM »

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Originally posted by bsdaddict
The code you posted earlier? The word "natural" doesn't even appear on that page.

So?

The key word here is "born" as in "at birth."

...but if you're hung up on the term, try this from the Library of Congress:

http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=001/llsl001.db&recNum=227

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"And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States shall be considered as natural born citizens..."

FWIW... Mitt Romney's father, George Romney, ran for president in 1967. He was born in Mexico. His parents were both citizens so he was considered a "natural born" citizen.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:09:42 AM »

hrmmm, I'm getting hung up on the "natural" part. Why would they say "natural born citizen" if "citizen" would do. Maybe that was just how they spoke back then. I'll have to look into that more, not that it matters... We're in agreement that this isn't an issue for McCain, I'm fine with leaving it at that.

Yeager · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:13:09 AM »

Because you can become a citizen without American citizens as parents. Here to be a natural born citizen your parents (thats where natural comes into play, parents) have to be US citizens. Thats why Arnold can never be president. His parents were not US citizens, thusly therefor he is not natural born even though is he a citizen.

Does that makes sense?

majic · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:14:49 AM »

Because you can't be a naturalized citizen. (Like Arnie.) You must be a citizen from birth.

Yeager · « **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:17:46 AM »

McCain is the best out there with Huckleberry coming in a close second. Because Romney is Mormon he believes that when he dies he becomes a god (lower case g) of some other worldly planet in the universe, populating said planet with countless female angles....

Mormons, although very benign in their religion, are quite whacked. Not Presidential material imo.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:20:48 AM »

Forget female angles...I'm only interested in their curves.

AWMac · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2008, 02:09:26 AM »

McCain/Huckleberry '08

Looks like a good ticket.

Mac

AWMac · « **Reply #29 on:** February 06, 2008, 02:12:35 AM »

There's an Old Rule between fishermen....

If you go fishing with a Mormon bring two.

Otherwise if you bring just one he will drink all your beer and smoke all your cigarettes.

If two are present they'll keep each other in check.

Yep