Author Topic: McCain vs. Presidential requirements (Read 2508 times)

SteveBailey · « **Reply #90 on:** February 07, 2008, 08:16:13 PM »

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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
John McCain isn't conservative? Please! McCain is a Republican in the ilk , Goldwater,

Blaahahahahah! OMG.

DYNAMITE · « **Reply #91 on:** February 07, 2008, 08:42:05 PM »

If you "political scholars" have your heads so far up your collective arse that you can't see the plain and simple truth in front of you... well, then that's your sad pathetic life to live.

You all amaze me

Read a book-

moot · « **Reply #92 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:00:16 PM »

There's good chances that the plain simple truth about McCain is closer for Steve to plainly see than it is to you.

DYNAMITE · « **Reply #93 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:03:08 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
There's good chances that the plain simple truth about McCain is closer for Steve to plainly see than it is to you.

Well considering that even I am wrong every once in a while... i suppose you're right

AKIron · « **Reply #94 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:13:09 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain claim that McCain got medical treatment as a POW in exchange for providing military information to his captors, information that led to US planes being shot down.

In 2000, Bush and company insinuated that McCain was the illegitimate birth father of the child they adopted from Bangladesh.

It's called SwiftBoating.

Horsepucky. Substantiate your claim about Bush's claim or withdraw it.

john9001 · « **Reply #95 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:16:01 PM »

but myelo is only insinuating that it happened.

AKIron · « **Reply #96 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:19:58 PM »

And yet the "swiftboaters" are real live people who knew John Kerry, which he does not refute. John kerry's outrageous and grievous defamation of our soldiers, who actually shed more than a few drops of their blood, is on record for all to see in disgust.

AKIron · « **Reply #97 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:22:52 PM »

Heck, I bet I shed more blood on duty than John Kerry when I was in the AF and I never saw combat or got a Purple Heart.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #98 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:47:55 PM »

I'm in full agreement that swift boating is an ugly tactic and apologize for posting the 'nam vets vs. mccain URL. At the time, I actually didn't make the connection that Hillary's claims regarding "dirt" on McCain were from that site. I only watched the video on the top of that page, the one where a POW's family member was getting the third degree from McCain in a Senate hearing (nothing unsubstantiated about that, you can see it for yourself), and was reacting to that when I said he get's uglier the more I learn about him. That's still true, but I certainly did not intend to contribute to the swiftboating of anyone. For that I apologize.

midnight Target · « **Reply #99 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:59:33 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Horsepucky. Substantiate your claim about Bush's claim or withdraw it.

http://community.myfoxphilly.com/blogs/af40/2008/01/18/Say_It_Aint_So_Mike

I figure a Fox News source might be persuasive.

AKIron · « **Reply #100 on:** February 07, 2008, 10:04:07 PM »

A blog posted on some local fox bbs containing something like this is hardly persuasive.

"First, it's clear South Carolina probably has not moved beyond its racist, segregationist past. It's not enough to claim that McCain had an illegitimate child (a ridiculous claim), but that, "on top of it all", the child is part African-American."

myelo · « **Reply #101 on:** February 08, 2008, 06:53:36 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Horsepucky. Substantiate your claim about Bush's claim or withdraw it.

We're you not yet able to read newspapers in 2000? If you want the details, google it.

Here's a start:

Boston Globe

Push polls "asked McCain supporters if they would be more or less likely to vote for McCain if they knew he had fathered an illegitimate child who was black."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mccain

"A mysterious semi-underground campaign began against McCain, delivered by push polls, faxes, e-mails, flyers, and the like, and comprising a series of smears: most famously, that he had fathered a black child out of wedlock (a hurtful reference to the McCains' dark-skinned daughter Bridget, adopted from Bangladesh,..."

I suspect you'll just dismiss any source out of hand so I'll stop there.

AKIron · « **Reply #102 on:** February 08, 2008, 08:56:19 AM »

Ok, I'll concede that there was a small local smear campaign in Boston that I never heard about because it was insignificant. Laying this at Bush's feet is ludicrous.

midnight Target · « **Reply #103 on:** February 08, 2008, 10:09:50 AM »

Yea, Bush had nothing to do with it, It was Rove. And we all know that Bush has absolutely no control over the actions of his suborditates. Helluva job Rovee.

myelo · « **Reply #104 on:** February 08, 2008, 10:25:35 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Ok, I'll concede that there was a small local smear campaign in Boston that I never heard about because it was insignificant. Laying this at Bush's feet is ludicrous.

It was South Carolina not Boston. And far from insignificant, the South Carolina primary was critical at that point of the campaign in 2000. In fact, McCain never really recovered from the SC defeat.

As for Bush not being involved ... son, is this your first rodeo?