Redouts

[Tattered]

I say if we get shot down we get a service, a tombstone and our subscription canceled.

[ColKLink]

Isn't the basic rule, "if ya blackout all the time, maybe one should not drink"?? That could never work here. Hub is right, the booze cancels out the real effects of pulling 20 g's, and haveing  to be scraped off the floorboards with a putty knife.

[Anaxogoras]

I can't remember what it was, but years ago there was a box flight sim where the pilot would scream in pain if you pushed negative G's too hard.  It was very entertaining, but also a little grotesque.

Without a doubt negative G's punish the pilot worse than positive G's.  I would see it as an improvement if the screen stayed Red longer (long enough to make it a real nuisance during combat), and faded back to normal vision much more slowly.  Those of you who think this is unreasonable just want to do your opposite-aileron-rudder-noseovers ad infinitum as a way to compensate for poor SA when you let a bandit get on your six, despite the fact that not even modern technology can allow an F-16 pilot to do the same maneuver comfortably.

[AquaShrimp]

The negative G's haven't permanently damaged Patty Wagstaff or any of her associates, so why should it permanently damage our AH pilots?

[bergy]

Kind of a funny thread. How about we put a monkey on top of your computer, so when you black out he hits you over the head with a hammer and you get knocked out, then if you red out, the moniter explodes in your face, blinding you, is that real enough? (for those uptight types, this is a retorical question and does not require an answer. This post is for entertainment purposes only)

[cbizkit]

Originally posted by Kweassa
It's the importance of the whole category of "G effect" as a factor impacting aerial combat on a larger scale that warrants attention, rather than just the individual event.

Concur. I've always felt the penalty for a black-out is much more significant than a red-out. When in full red-out the pilot remains totally in control of the plane which seems a bit unrealistic from a pilot endurance standpoint. Personally I think a simple solution such as full red-out means loss of ability to control the plane until it fades back to a certain level. Similar to a GLOC but shorter lived since there wouldn't be a simulated loss of consciousness.

I think that would go a long way to removing several of the prolonged (note the use of the word, prolonged) negative-G maneuvers that are commonly seen in the MA. Of course, there may have been real pilots that were just fine with flying around with their eyes buldging out of their sockets for long periods of time so I stand ready to be corrected.

[effect]

Kind of a funny thread. How about we put a monkey on top of your computer, so when you black out he hits you over the head with a hammer and you get knocked out, then if you red out, the moniter explodes in your face, blinding you, is that real enough? (for those uptight types, this is a retorical question and does not require an answer. This post is for entertainment purposes only)

     

[Carwash]

Originally posted by Kweassa
How about just rethinking how the blackouts or redouts are done, instead of being plain rude?
 

I did not think that Blammo's post was rude.  Maybe a little sarcastic, but not rude.  I've seen rude post in these forums, and his did not hold a candle to the rude ones.

You're right, it is HT and Pyro's call.  It's their money, their business, their call.  

While I do enjoy the realism involved with flying in the game, i.e. I turn off my stall limiter and don't use combat trim, I don't think the game would be much fun if we had to fly the planes by the manual.  Did you see that P47 manual someone had posted?  If you had to do all that, very few would play.  The game seeks to find the balance between realism and arcade that attracts the most paying customers.  Or at least that would be the idea assuming HT and Pyro are capitalists.

[Overlag]

ive still blacked out "forever" by doing too many high G stuff constantly....i woke up in the tower....