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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #150 on: February 08, 2008, 10:23:35 AM »
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Does it matter?

 After all, it's their 15 bucks. Who amongst us has any right to dictate in what manner or plane they should fly?

 According to what Ak-ak posted above:



 
 Wouldn't you agree?

Certainly, however isn't it more fun to be the predator than being the prey?
Striving to improve those skill sets I listed will bring you up the food chain.


 Or are you saying everyone should learn to be 'better' because you think that is "fun", despite others might not feel the same way?

So you're saying its more fun to be a tasty snack for the big dogs of the MA?
Everybody gets caught flat footed once in a while. Even the biggest hoin, picking,  alt monkey, horde monkey -insert plane of choice- player.

Improving the skill sets allows you prolong or survive the times when caught low slow and alone. It matters not what your in, or how many with you,rather how you control what you're in.
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« Reply #151 on: February 08, 2008, 10:48:59 AM »
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                       I like the LA-7. Ive been in fighters about 10 days and after all the cheap shots Ive gotten I like nothing better then jumping in one, screaming in at 400 mph 5' off the ground, stick a few shivs in a few backs, and then scream away laughing as 10 Bish try to catch me. All it is is cheery picking in the horizontal.
 

Great example here.  So he has out paced his attackers and they broke off. He's now OTD out of wep.
Here comes the the 10 k lala  vectoring to cut him off. Now what? If he takes the time to learn/ improve on those skill sets I mentioned. I'll bet he'd have a ton more fun reversing the attacker. Rather than stick stir and mashing the wep key in futility.

But I guess being helpless is fun for many.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #152 on: February 08, 2008, 11:14:03 AM »
Yep, nothing more riveting than shallow victories.
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« Reply #153 on: February 08, 2008, 11:56:23 AM »
Hence 3+ dolts chasing a wing-less B-25 down after it's already been "killed"



Let me put it this way: A 3 year old things boogers are fun. Other 3 year olds think they are fun too. Anybody older than 3, with more intellectual depth, gets over it fast, and no longer things boogers are fun. The rest of the world grows up and thinks boogers are not "fun" -- so just because the 3-year-old thinks it, is it true?

It might be some form of instant gratification, but IMO it's just lacking of .... what? intellect? Scope? Perhaps just experience? Let's use "maturity" for lack of other choices.

So a 2-week newbie ups an la7, hos, runs screaming home every time he takes a breath, stick stirs the bejeezus outta his plane any time anybody nears 800yards... HE might think it's fun. HE might get some instant gratification. It doesn't mean the majority of the game base would agree. And he is closing himself off from the (IMO greater) fun of actually manuvering for a kill, or evading a HO, or

Robbing Peter to pay Paul. That sort of thing.


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« Reply #154 on: February 08, 2008, 12:23:35 PM »
I fly the La5N quite often. Its amazing how easy it is to shoot an La down when you know how to operate one. I do find it very difficult to catch one that is flown by a seasoned pilot. I do find myself aggrevated when the darn thing runs and I can't catch it. And yes I do get nailed by the occational six shot I didn't see comming. Every once in awhile, their is another La that wants to dogfight. Those engagements are very fun.

It's funny how so few planes cause so much controversy. Most seem to figure ways to deal with it. I guess others would rather gripe.

Oh yeah, thanks for the upgrade.
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« Reply #155 on: February 08, 2008, 12:33:29 PM »
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Are the changes to the -5FN/-7 cosmetic only or are there any revamps of their flight characterstics?


No announcement of a change in flight characteristics have been mentioned (that I have seen) ... only the visual aspects.

Maybe a change in the visual model forces a change in the flight model too.
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« Reply #156 on: February 08, 2008, 12:43:35 PM »
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Maybe a change in the visual model forces a change in the flight model too.


No, the flight models and 3D models are completely seperate to each other.

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« Reply #157 on: February 08, 2008, 12:43:54 PM »
I can't recall where, but I'm pretty sure I've recently seen someone point out that physics are independent of graphics.  It's how I've always seen it done.

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« Reply #158 on: February 08, 2008, 01:05:38 PM »
We can make a sleigh fly like a 163.........:noid

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« Reply #159 on: February 08, 2008, 01:08:05 PM »
Krusty,

Thanks for equating my liking of Spitfires to liking boogers.  That is such a nonoffensive way of putting it.

Sorry, but you are full of bull**** here.  I've liked Spitfires a lot for two decades.  That they are good fighters is completely irrelevant to that.

But I'm "supposed" to outgrow them and go to a more politically correct fighter like, oh, P-40s or Bf109s.  Complete bull****.
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« Reply #160 on: February 08, 2008, 01:10:02 PM »
You miss the point entirely, Karnak.

You've already moved on to the intellectual enjoyment phase (you like the plane, the history, etc) rather than just relying on instant kills.


EDIT: I wasn't talking about anybody specifically when I made my comments

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« Reply #161 on: February 08, 2008, 01:17:01 PM »
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We can make a sleigh fly like a 163.........:noid



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« Reply #162 on: February 08, 2008, 01:19:55 PM »
You've been painting with a very broad brush.  You labeled all Spit and La players as people who refused to move on to acceptable fighters.

And you have me backwards, I liked the history first.
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« Reply #163 on: February 08, 2008, 01:58:33 PM »
I don't think he was speaking of all LA and Spit flyers. I think he meant the runners, hoers, alt monkeys, etc.
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« Reply #164 on: February 08, 2008, 02:05:28 PM »
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I don't think he was speaking of all LA and Spit flyers. I think he meant the runners, hoers, alt monkeys, etc.

Everybody can be so defined by somebody else.

Do I run?  Sure, if I think my situation is stacked against me.  Am I an alt monkey?  Sure, to somebody who never climbs above 5,000ft.  Am I an HOer?  If I think it is the best move I can use, yes.

At the same time, I don't run if I think I have a fighting chance, I rarely climb above 13,000ft (Mossie's best speed alt) and I avoid HOs almost 100% of the time in Spits and 84s and most of the time in the Mossie.
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