Author Topic: La5 and LA7  (Read 10738 times)

Offline RATTFINK

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3488
La5 and LA7
« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2008, 06:19:51 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
shoot rats




hmm, hmm... what do you mean by that hmmm :)
Hitting trees since tour 78

Offline Fulmar

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3936
      • Aces High Movie Database
La5 and LA7
« Reply #136 on: February 07, 2008, 06:22:22 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack

you are in no position to criticize anyone for flying the plane they choose to.

I think this arguement is hitting a little too close to home for some.  We're talking about a video game here.  Plus, we're talking about internet etiquette as well....where everyone has their own opinion (which is 100% correct to the post).  Take what you want from Krusty's post, criticism is a fairly strong word.  I took his post and his mere opinion.
In game callsign: not currently flying
Flying off and on since Warbirds
Aces High Movies available at www.derstuhl.net/ahmd2 - no longer aceshighmovies.com - not updated either

Offline Bronk

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9044
La5 and LA7
« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2008, 06:22:49 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
Going with AKAK on this one.  IF you have fun flying it, go for it.  For me it's the history aspect.  The 80th was a 38 squadron.  With the 39 coming, I'll fly that one too as the 80th had it.

Doesn't mean guys in the 80th can't fly what they enjoy but the fun is in the 38.

In a scenario I'll get into whatever bird goes with the history of the group I'm flying.  Spit,s 109Es, P40s, etc.  

But that's just me.  To expect someone else to fly it that way is just silly.  If a guy has fun in an LA7, go for it.  If it's a Spit, go for it.

Who cares.  Unperk em all.

As I've same a million times now.  As long as I'm not really dying and planes are free, who cares.:aok


????Having FUN????? IN A GAME????? What are you, nuts ???;)
See Rule #4

Offline goober69

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 436
La5 and LA7
« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2008, 06:37:49 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
The B-20 is about as strong and as "flat" (i.e. laser-like) as a hispano.

The SHVAK is about as strong and un-flat (i.e. potato-like) as the MG/FF or Type99 Japanese cannon.

Using the 3-gun package gives you single-ping kills. Using the 2-gun package requires you to land many hits on target to get a decent kill.

I've unloaded 20+ SHVAK into a P-51D once and only got an oil leak. On the other hand, land any snapshot with the 3x B-20 and you get catastrophic failure on most single engine fighters.


It makes a big difference. It's like taking 7mm wing guns on the C205 instead of the 20mms


its funny to me but the type 99 cannons dont feel like tater guns i have't really got problems killing within 300 meters. (of course i have four of em) lol
flying as Marvin57
"we few we happy few,
  we band of brothers;"
W.S  Henery V

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
La5 and LA7
« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2008, 07:57:11 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by goober69
its funny to me but the type 99 cannons dont feel like tater guns i have't really got problems killing within 300 meters. (of course i have four of em) lol

He is talking about the Type 99 Model 1 cannons on the A6M2, not the much higher velocity Type 99 Model 2 cannons on the N1K2-J and A6M5b.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline angelsandair

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3126
      • RT Website
La5 and LA7
« Reply #140 on: February 07, 2008, 08:16:17 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by AquaShrimp
La-5 will murder the P-39 no doubt, lol.



You know the #2 Ace in the war flew a p-39 right?? Atleast from what i heard on the forums. Sadly only beaten by a la dweeb :aok
Quote
Goto Google and type in "French military victories", then hit "I'm feeling lucky".
Here lie these men on this sun scoured atoll,
The wind for their watcher, the wave for their shroud,
Where palm and pandanus shall whisper forever,
A requiem fitting for heroes

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
La5 and LA7
« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2008, 08:58:50 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
????Having FUN????? IN A GAME????? What are you, nuts ???;)



Don't tell me that Mensa has gotten to you too.  I swear, that kid is determined to take the fun out of AH.  I think I'll go tell a1945 so he can have a little "talk" with Mensa again.   ^__^


ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline SuBWaYCH

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1730
La5 and LA7
« Reply #142 on: February 07, 2008, 09:59:44 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Squire
Hope they redo the Yaks, it would be nice to get the much more common 20mm SHVAK armament on the Yak-9 too.


While your at it, Yak-3/7. Would be pretty nice to have.
Axis C.O. for Battle of the Dnieper, Winter '43

Air superiority is a condition for all operations, at sea, on land, and in the air. - Air Marshal Arthur Tedder

364th Chawks

Offline Fariz

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1087
      • http://9giap.warriormage.com
La5 and LA7
« Reply #143 on: February 08, 2008, 12:32:14 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Tilt
he's being mischevious again............. there were no drop tanks used on the La7 or the La5FN.


I know. But in reality it was not 1.8 fuel multiplier as well (or whatever it is now) -)

Truth is that after they changed multiplier I stopped flying la5, which were my all time favorite ride. Even with best fuel management it sucks fuel way too fast in fight.

Offline Kweassa

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6425
La5 and LA7
« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2008, 01:08:48 AM »
Quote
So instead of being a lemming, why not just advocate flying what is fun for the player? Because what is fun for you, might not be for someone else and you are in no position to criticize anyone for flying the plane they choose to.


 Unfortunately, there is no denying many people in the vet circles have a tendency to show double standards in applying the above sentiment.

 They usually tend to demand you, the average-sucky pilot, should fly sub-(MA)standard planes, so you can "learn" how to fight 'better'... and then go ranting on how they will "never learn" to fight 'better' if you stay in some 'dweeb plane' or 'hide in hordes' or ' '.

 So according to what they say, you have to be in a mid-war plane or less, always meet them 1vs1, never be rescued/saved by intervening friendlies, always willingly throw yourself into a knife-fight against a better pilot, and then always get shot down.

 If you do the opposite of the above; ie, fly in a late-war aircraft, secure some numbers advantage with the help of a friendly or a wingman, use his help to defeat better pilots, refuse to fight the way he wants, and refuse to be shot down easily .... you are a 'n00b who will learn nothing'.


 It's really touching how they care so much about yourself, the average-sucky pilot... but sometimes they get really annoying.

Offline Fruda

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1267
La5 and LA7
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2008, 01:40:39 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by goober69
its funny to me but the type 99 cannons dont feel like tater guns i have't really got problems killing within 300 meters. (of course i have four of em) lol


The Type 99 Mk. I cannon on the A6M2 feels like you've got a potato gun mounted on the nose.

The Type 99 Mk. II cannons on the N1K2-J, however, feel like lazers. You can get killshots from 800 (I've done it and it's happened to me countless times) with those damn things. I had an N1K following my 152, and from 800 out, I thought I was safe... How wrong I was. Still 800 out, and my left wing fell off. I saw the tracer fire going by just before I went into a spin and bailed.

Offline Bronk

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9044
La5 and LA7
« Reply #146 on: February 08, 2008, 04:30:34 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Kweassa
Unfortunately, there is no denying many people in the vet circles have a tendency to show double standards in applying the above sentiment.

 They usually tend to demand you, the average-sucky pilot, should fly sub-(MA)standard planes, so you can "learn" how to fight 'better'... and then go ranting on how they will "never learn" to fight 'better' if you stay in some 'dweeb plane' or 'hide in hordes' or ' '.

 So according to what they say, you have to be in a mid-war plane or less, always meet them 1vs1, never be rescued/saved by intervening friendlies, always willingly throw yourself into a knife-fight against a better pilot, and then always get shot down.

 If you do the opposite of the above; ie, fly in a late-war aircraft, secure some numbers advantage with the help of a friendly or a wingman, use his help to defeat better pilots, refuse to fight the way he wants, and refuse to be shot down easily .... you are a 'n00b who will learn nothing'.


 It's really touching how they care so much about yourself, the average-sucky pilot... but sometimes they get really annoying.


Hmmmm, "Fun" not mentioned once in this entire post.
Question
Will a player have more fun once he learns some acm/gunnery/SA/E-management?
See Rule #4

Offline Kweassa

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6425
La5 and LA7
« Reply #147 on: February 08, 2008, 05:50:20 AM »
Quote
Will a player have more fun once he learns some acm/gunnery/SA/E-management?



 Does it matter?

 After all, it's their 15 bucks. Who amongst us has any right to dictate in what manner or plane they should fly?

 According to what Ak-ak posted above:

Quote
Because what is fun for you, might not be for someone else and you are in no position to criticize anyone for flying the plane they choose to.


 
 Wouldn't you agree?

 Or are you saying everyone should learn to be 'better' because you think that is "fun", despite others might not feel the same way?

Offline Rich46yo

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7358
La5 and LA7
« Reply #148 on: February 08, 2008, 06:05:23 AM »
Yeah, this is why  you have to tune people out and just do your own thing. "Learn to fly"? Haha, thats a good one. Its a computer game so how can you, "learn to fly"?:eek:

                         Many of these "Erroll Flynns of the wild blue" dont hesitate to game the game, camp the spawn, cherry pick in a 190, or h'oe the sc'oe. But God help the poor schmuck with 3 months in the game that stretches out the chase in his LA-7.

                        On the other hand there are also those "game veterans", "not flight veterans", who dont hesitate to help a noob, dont annoint themselves General and scream on the Vox, and dont strut around like Jimmy Doolittle in the Forums. Best of all they can laugh about it all. Thankfully there are plenty of these guys too.

                       I like the LA-7. Ive been in fighters about 10 days and after all the cheap shots Ive gotten I like nothing better then jumping in one, screaming in at 400 mph 5' off the ground, stick a few shivs in a few backs, and then scream away laughing as 10 Bish try to catch me. All it is is cheery picking in the horizontal.

                     And it must piss a lot of Erroll Flynns off. Not turn fighting with zeros and Spits and "improving my flight skills by getting myself kilt".:lol



Quote
Originally posted by Kweassa
Unfortunately, there is no denying many people in the vet circles have a tendency to show double standards in applying the above sentiment.

 They usually tend to demand you, the average-sucky pilot, should fly sub-(MA)standard planes, so you can "learn" how to fight 'better'... and then go ranting on how they will "never learn" to fight 'better' if you stay in some 'dweeb plane' or 'hide in hordes' or ' '.

 So according to what they say, you have to be in a mid-war plane or less, always meet them 1vs1, never be rescued/saved by intervening friendlies, always willingly throw yourself into a knife-fight against a better pilot, and then always get shot down.

 If you do the opposite of the above; ie, fly in a late-war aircraft, secure some numbers advantage with the help of a friendly or a wingman, use his help to defeat better pilots, refuse to fight the way he wants, and refuse to be shot down easily .... you are a 'n00b who will learn nothing'.


 It's really touching how they care so much about yourself, the average-sucky pilot... but sometimes they get really annoying.
"flying the aircraft of the Red Star"

Offline Gabriel

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 207
La5 and LA7
« Reply #149 on: February 08, 2008, 08:04:39 AM »
Are the changes to the -5FN/-7 cosmetic only or are there any revamps of their flight characterstics?