Author Topic: La5 and LA7 (Read 9366 times)

Bronk · « **Reply #45 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:24:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
But the La7 didn't or nor ever has unbalanced the game play like the F4U-1C did, hence why it was originally perked.

ack-ack

True but the spit XIV would never unbalance the arena... yet perked.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #46 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:27:34 PM »

While I agree totally on the criteria that HiTech uses to decide which plane gets perked, I don't always agree with his choices. I don't see why the Spitfire XIV or the TA 152 are still perked, I don't believe they unbalance the arena any longer with the addition of some of the new planes we've gotten.

ack-ack

Lusche · « **Reply #47 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:30:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
While I agree totally on the criteria that HiTech uses to decide which plane gets perked, I don't always agree with his choices. I don't see why the Spitfire XIV or the TA 152 are still perked, I don't believe they unbalance the arena any longer with the addition of some of the new planes we've gotten.

ack-ack

The Ta 152 was unperked more than a year ago.

Other than that, I agree.

Sketch · « **Reply #48 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:33:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
While I agree totally on the criteria that HiTech uses to decide which plane gets perked, I don't always agree with his choices. I don't see why the Spitfire XIV or the TA 152 are still perked, I don't believe they unbalance the arena any longer with the addition of some of the new planes we've gotten.
ack-ack

The Ta is not perked anymore... at least I don't think it is. But then again, Ack-Ack, you never have to scroll down any further than P38 and since T comes after P you might not get a chance to see it....

Tilt · « **Reply #49 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:38:16 PM »

The la7 is skinned as the mount of one Capt P. Ja. Golovachev of 9GIAP when under the 303rd IAD. (Polish/Prussian front).

Infact this had a yellow spinner as did all 9GIAD ac of that time. (Winter 44/45)
Golovachev had a personal emblem of a hawk on a red heart on the Port engine cover.
The fuselage star was very large. Its top tip almost touching the rear canopy frame. Its rear lower tip touching the underbelly blue.

The tail star was "fuller" than the one shown and the La7 symbol should appear (red on white) on the top tip of the tail star.

Golovachev (or Golovachyov) completed the GPW as 9GIAP's thrid highest scoring ace with 35 kills many scored flying with the great Ahmet Khan.

The detail around the spinner showing the cooling vanes is superb.

Some of the air frame rendering seems to be still work in progress. The landing gear seems to stick thru the wing. This may be because the La7 landing gear should be longer than the la5FN and some stuff around that is yet to be done.

The exhaust cover vane should be smaller on the La7 than the La5fn it may that the skin does not pick it out or indeed the shape is not rendered. I cannot tell.

The rivits/screws around the exhaust heat shield seem too prominent.

The inside surface of the flaps seem beautifully rendered and the latches on the cowls seem very nicely done

Squire · « **Reply #50 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:40:38 PM »

"200 Niki's produced and it isn't perked."

My guess would be because its the only version available, and its not that unbalancing vs other rides, like the CHOG.

The LA-7 does need a varient that was so rare. No 4 cannon Spit Vs, no 3 cannon LA-7s. Stick with varients that were at least reasonably common, this isnt "Crimson Skies".

...and im not "anti LA", its a great fighter, and absolutely should be in the game, has a very interesting history, many top aces flew it.

Tilt · « **Reply #51 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:42:49 PM »

The flap indicator should be on the low left hand side

its the orange thing behind the throttle and to the left of the gear raise and lower lever.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #52 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:43:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Sketch
The Ta is not perked anymore... at least I don't think it is. But then again, Ack-Ack, you never have to scroll down any further than P38 and since T comes after P you might not get a chance to see it....

I didn't know the perk was finally removed from the Ta152, and for the exact reason you stated ^__^. Don't recall the last time I got past P-38L in the plane selection list, well, actually, the P-38s are the only planes I have on my plane selection list.

ack-ack

Speed55 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:53:59 PM »

I'm not a fan of the lalas, but they do look they look really nice.

And updates are always fun.

Stang · « **Reply #54 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:08:31 PM »

Sounds like Boner has a crutch he can't fly without. Yeah, one more cannon doesn't make a difference at all...

SgtPappy · « **Reply #55 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:09:21 PM »

But what's that strange, translucent rectangular panel right above the La-5FN's gunsight? It looks like a rear view..

Yeager · « **Reply #56 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:11:33 PM »

the LAs in IL2 have beautiful cockpits with great views, gun sight forward especially. Thats why I hate the old AH LA cockpits....ugly. Compared to the old cockpits these new ones look fantastic and definitely on par with IL2. And the skins look great too!

Sweet HTC and helpers, Thanks!

Tilt · « **Reply #57 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:11:33 PM »

In fact the order (No 6681 of the GKO) to begin production of 3 cannon La7's was given such that three cannon La7's were accepted into production in October 1944 at plant No 381 (Kovrov Moscow) (already at that time making 2 cannon variants)

This despite problems up until that date of ejected shells hitting the tail plane and poor/unreliable cannon operation.

However production continued but the above problems were again found in tests carried out in January 45. Still production continued with aircraft being sent to the front line. The B20 was never to perfom as reliably in the La7 as the Shvak.

The service life of a Shvak was at least 5000 rounds where the B20 had to be limited to circa 3000 rounds.

Of a total of 3977 la7's produced before the end of the GPW 2957 were recieved by the VVS and 198 by the Naval air arm by May1st 1945.

Of the 3977 , 368 all made by plant No.381 were of the 3 cannon variant. These aircraft were issued to the VVS over a period between January and December 1945.

La7 production ceased at the end of 1945 with a total of some 6158 machines.

4610 from plant 21 Gorky
1298 from plant 381 kosrov
250 from plant 99 Ulan Ude.

So warts and all the three cannon version was active during the tail end of the GPW. Probably in greater numbers than many ac flying in AH today (Chog and 152 come to mind).

However whilst it does not unbalance the arena now I see no reason not to perk its load out when this option becomes available. The two cannon version is by far the most representative of the type just as the 6 gun version of the Corsair is of its type.

Tilt · « **Reply #58 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:13:34 PM »

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Originally posted by SgtPappy
But what's that strange, translucent rectangular panel right above the La-5FN's gunsight? It looks like a rear view..

its the top of the front armoured glass

Krusty · « **Reply #59 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:19:46 PM »

The B-20 is about as strong and as "flat" (i.e. laser-like) as a hispano.

The SHVAK is about as strong and un-flat (i.e. potato-like) as the MG/FF or Type99 Japanese cannon.

Using the 3-gun package gives you single-ping kills. Using the 2-gun package requires you to land many hits on target to get a decent kill.

I've unloaded 20+ SHVAK into a P-51D once and only got an oil leak. On the other hand, land any snapshot with the 3x B-20 and you get catastrophic failure on most single engine fighters.

It makes a big difference. It's like taking 7mm wing guns on the C205 instead of the 20mms