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Offline Gorf

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« on: February 06, 2008, 08:06:08 PM »
Well, I know I am slow on the go.Been out of the country for 4 months and came back and was >>GASPING<<

Hazzah! about time the P-39!

THANK YOU  HTC!!
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Offline angelsandair

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 12:04:30 PM »
o Yea i know. Kind of sad though. People are saying that the plane sucks and that every other plane could out do it. Well what the cool thing is though, the #2 ace in ww2 was a p-39 pilot only to be beaten by a La dweeb. :D
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 12:23:49 PM »
Germans had all the top aces buddy.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2008, 01:05:42 PM »
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Germans had all the top aces buddy.
isn't that 'cause they didn't rotate their pilots or something?  They HAD to be aces, it was that or be dead...  :D
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2008, 01:37:08 PM »
Not #2 of the war. It was the #2 Russian ace Alexandre Pokryshkin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Ivanovich_Pokryshkin
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2008, 01:38:58 PM »
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o Yea i know. Kind of sad though. People are saying that the plane sucks and that every other plane could out do it. Well what the cool thing is though, the #2 ace in ww2 was a p-39 pilot only to be beaten by a La dweeb. :D


Pokryshkin was the number 2 Allied ace... never came close to German scores though.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 01:41:14 PM »
JG11 high five!
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 02:23:43 PM »
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JG11 high five!



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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 02:27:23 PM »
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o Yea i know. Kind of sad though. People are saying that the plane sucks and that every other plane could out do it. Well what the cool thing is though, the #2 ace in ww2 was a p-39 pilot only to be beaten by a La dweeb. :D

It wasnt the plane,it was pilot
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 04:22:09 PM »
I wounder when it will be out, can't wait any longer.
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Offline BaDkaRmA158Th

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 04:25:21 PM »
Thats because germans counted everything shot down.

cargo planes recon planes air ballon's bird's UFo's .ect.


No wounder most had 250+ kills.


But it's not like each and everyone was done with dog fighting, that simply will never* be truth.


"I bombed three parked planes in my 190 today, lets put it down as five dog fight kills, that should scare the russians a little more when they learn half our squad are *aces* operating in there area."
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 07:29:33 PM »
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Thats because germans counted everything shot down.

cargo planes recon planes air ballon's bird's UFo's .ect.


No wounder most had 250+ kills.


But it's not like each and everyone was done with dog fighting, that simply will never* be truth.


"I bombed three parked planes in my 190 today, lets put it down as five dog fight kills, that should scare the russians a little more when they learn half our squad are *aces* operating in there area."

Where did that come from? Ive never read anything that would even suggest that German Kill-scores were inflated.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 07:36:00 PM »
On the contrary.  I've read in a few places that German kill scores were remarkably accurate; even after comparing them after the war to recorded allied losses.

German pilots had many, many more years on the line, and quite a few opportunities to pad scores against outdated equipment or poorly trained pilots (or both)...and unescorted bombers...  Given their experience, though, the Germans undoubtedly had the best fighter pilots by virtue of sheer number of hours flown in combat.  Had they used that experience to train the new guys things might have been a bit different in '44 and '45.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 08:05:22 PM »
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Germans had all the top aces buddy.


It's not really very easy to look and say who had the "top aces" since each scenario is different. Some of the early french aces did very well vs the germans. The squadrons equipped with the hawk75 in particular.

If we stick with just the luftwaffe itself the names that standout arent just the ones you'd expect.

Gunther Scheel was probably the most gifted pilot on any side during WW2. No one came close to his level of "production". The fact that he wasnt an early ware pilot and got thrown into the mix relatively late in the war and had 70 kills in just 71 sorties before colliding with a russian plane in mid 43.

Adolph Gluntz had 71 kills in over 500 sorties (almost all in the west) and well over 200 combats was never shot down, wounded or had his plane seriously shot up....remarkable SA...

Walter Loos also stands out...

He didnt even complete flight training till 1/44 and accumulated 38 confirmed victories while being shot down 9 times (probably one of the best Ta-152 aces of the war)...
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 11:12:57 PM »
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On the contrary.  I've read in a few places that German kill scores were remarkably accurate; even after comparing them after the war to recorded allied losses.

...must...not....bite....

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