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Offline BlauK

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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2008, 02:22:43 AM »
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I think we have drank some good spirits together back in 2004? ;)


Yup, we surely did :) Looking forward to doing that again some day.

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You Euros have to understand that Kosovo is a terrorist enclave in the middle of Europe. I bet - 5 years later you'll beg for Serbs to restore order there.


I am willing to see that bet. IMO it is the lack of freedom that creates terrorism (in addition to lack of knowledge). Now they will have other, internal, challenges to deal with.


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Nice to see US/NATO supporting genocide of Serbs. Like they did in 1995 in Srpska Krajna, over 350,000 victims.


Any references to that? 350,000 dead eh?
I thought the figures were more like over 200,000 refugees and apx. 14,000 killed. However, even that was horrible.

Serbs killed about as many civilians in Kosovo, right?
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2008, 03:25:32 AM »
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Any references to that? 350,000 dead eh?
I thought the figures were more like over 200,000 refugees and apx. 14,000 killed. However, even that was horrible.

Serbs killed about as many civilians in Kosovo, right?


As far as the refugees go, those people were evacuated by their own gov't so I'm not sure how that can be called genocide or ethic cleansing. All three factions in former Yugoslavia were pretty brutal to the other opposing factions. There is some pretty deep seated hatred in that region.

To call out one side without acknowledging the other 2 sides is kinda rediculous imo.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2008, 03:30:55 AM »
Ok, i just love arguing on the net:D

Let's start.

350 000 SERBIAN VICTIMS??
They left on their own, and the number of dead Croatians doubles the number of
dead Serbians.And hello, we are the ones who were attacked.We didn't get military help from anyone.We had to smuggle weapons!
Worst massacres were done by Serbs, on Kosovars, on Bosnians and on Croatians.

Every war crime is terrible, and should be punished but please, Serbia attacked us, let's not forget who the real terrorists are here.

I understand that the Russia was always an ally of Serbia, and i won't comment on Kosovo, since it is not mine or any other Croatians business.

Balkan has always been the starter of world wars, from Alexander the Great, Turks, WW1 (for those who didn't know) etc. etc.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2008, 04:00:02 AM »
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One of the common traits pretty much exclusive to Nords is that mellow pessimism.  I don't know if it's the booze, desert landscapes or long winter nights, or what... Boroda and other Russians like him take it off the scale.  It's like the whole world's misery fell on their face.
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2008, 04:23:20 AM »
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Originally posted by moot
One of the common traits pretty much exclusive to Nords is that mellow pessimism.  I don't know if it's the booze, desert landscapes or long winter nights, or what... Boroda and other Russians like him take it off the scale.  It's like the whole world's misery fell on their face.


First brush up on your geography and then come back.
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2008, 04:28:04 AM »
Normally Stereotyping is bad but

Every Kosovar Albanian I have met has started at Jerk and progressed up the scale.

Very unpleasant the lot of them, and I met a lot of them.
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2008, 04:33:39 AM »
Every one has a right for independence.

I declared my back yard as a free republic and appointed myself president for life. My wife is the minister of education, health and internal affairs. My boy is the minister tourism (being the greatest attraction for visitors).

I need to send an ambassador to the state of Israel, so I am considering adopting a dog. There are no dogs in my country so I am having intense diplomatic meetings with the neighboring republics, but their laws of adoptions and animal rights are different than the local ones and cause legal problems.

Time human society goes back to the proven city-states.
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2008, 04:59:08 AM »
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First brush up on your geography and then come back.

Huh?  I said I didn't know what caused that typical trait of Nordics and supposed it could by any of those things.  I didn't say it was the cause, nor that they existed as I described them.  Except for the booze part, there's no doubt about that.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2008, 04:59:24 AM »
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Every one has a right for independence.
 


Not really no.

This is a completely idiotic move by the retarded kosovars. I sincerely hope that no one recognizes them, because the precendent it would set would be insanely bad.

If kosovo is granted independence, then we have a situation where NATO/EU went into another nation, without a UN resolution, and by using force of arms, broke up that nation and created a new nation from a part of it.

Now think on this for a second, and then consider the implications. For Kurdistan, Palestine, Tibet, Taiwan...all of which have an enormously greater claim to independence than a handful of gypsies and thugs trying to carve out a nation in Kosovo right now.
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2008, 05:05:31 AM »
Croduh,
what is your opinion about this page: The Invasion of Serbian Krajina ?

I am not taking any sides here, just wondering. The text seems pretty one sided though. The writer is elsewhere portrayed as "model investigative journalist of the anti-imperialist left" :rolleyes:
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2008, 05:08:04 AM »
Oh and those bumper stickers that say, no one died when Clinton lied. I am reminded of those poor serbs on the train crossing the bridge when Slick Willy said...hey everyone look over here,
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2008, 05:21:40 AM »
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Huh?  I said I didn't know what caused that typical trait of Nordics and supposed it could by any of those things.  I didn't say it was the cause, nor that they existed as I described them.  Except for the booze part, there's no doubt about that.


Russia is not Nordic. ;)

"The Nordic countries make up a region in Northern Europe called the Nordic region, consisting of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden and their associated territories which include the Faroe Islands, Greenland, and Åland"
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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2008, 05:24:52 AM »
I know Nilsen.  But if you run the gamut of all countries from one to the next (e.g. from western europe to eastern asia), many cultural patterns aren't discontinuous from one country to the next, but gradual.
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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2008, 05:35:40 AM »
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I know Nilsen.  But if you run the gamut of all countries from one to the next (e.g. from western europe to eastern asia), many cultural patterns aren't discontinuous from one country to the next, but gradual.


Not at all. I guess you havent been in the region, but there are no similarities between nordic people and russians other than the fact that we are all humans and dont go to war with eachother (except the fins and swedes :D ).

The russians have far more in common with the slavic both in temperament, behavior and history. The one thing we do have in common is borders and friendly trading that has gone on from the viking age and up to now. Norway is actually the only bordering country that Russia has never been at war with, and the only country that the russians withdrew from after the second world war.

Put 10 "typical" norwegians and 10 "typical" russians in a room and i will bet a months wages that you can separate them all within a few minutes ;) You dont even have to hear them speak. Looks and hand gestures will be enough
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2008, 05:47:06 AM »
According to the Russian Primary Chronicle (ca. 1040-1118 AD), the Rus were a group of "Varangians," possibly of Swedish origin, who had a leader named Rurik. Rus appears to be derived from the Finnish word for Sweden, *Rotsi, later Ruotsi, which in turn comes from Old Swedish rother, a word associated with rowing or ships, so that rothskarlar meant "rowers" or "seamen."

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