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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2008, 09:34:29 PM »
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History channel CGI does not look like that.. nor does any other I've ever seen and I used to do 3D work. I call BS on this being CGI.. Also History channel shows various views of their reproductions not gun cam only footage.

If that is CGI then it made some news somewhere so if you guys call CGI.. well prove it. That quality of CGI environment would have made some news somewhere.

It says digitally remastered to color. Not CGI. As to the radio I have no clue on that part could very well be fake and added to the video as well as the sound.


     It is CGI, although it's blurred in that footage.  I saw it first about a year ago
and IIRC it was done for a museum simulation in England.

Here is a link with the original soundtrack:

Spitfire CGI
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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2008, 09:52:24 PM »
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You even know what photoshop is?


You even know what guncam footage is?
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« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2008, 10:18:07 PM »
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It is CGI, although it's blurred in that footage.  I saw it first about a year ago
and IIRC it was done for a museum simulation in England.

Here is a link with the original soundtrack:

Spitfire CGI



It's not CGI (I thought it was at first, too).  It's actual footage shot from a chase helicopter.  It was made for a simulation ride.


Check this link under the "DogFight" section.  
http://helifilms.homestead.com/ridefilms.html

That film was originated on "Showscan"...the same "property of" watermarked on the video.



Here's a link to ShowScan's website where you can download the video.
http://www.showscan.com/dnn/Films/RideFilms/tabid/91/Default.aspx

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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2008, 10:32:19 PM »
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I've never seen this footage posted anywhere but damn it's some of the best I've seen from ww2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuZkG9t2OSA

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1941: Air duel over the Cliffs of Dover between German BF 109 and British Spitfires. Original captured soundtrack of the battle and of radio communications between German fighters' airmen.


no one noticed the two 109's ganging the spit in the beginning?

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« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2008, 10:36:41 PM »
Real or not it was fun to watch.

I think I actually saw that exact same fight (on youtube?) but from one of the Spitfires perspectives (without radio chatter).  In the end of that film, the remaining 109 bugs out on the deck.
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« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2008, 10:59:48 PM »
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History channel CGI does not look like that.. nor does any other I've ever seen and I used to do 3D work. I call BS on this being CGI..  


Well now we know why you *used* to do CGI work :)

It's CGI, not hard to spot at all, there are quite a obvious few clues - here's a freebie to start with - control surfaces.

Looks like a helicopter ran a flight path then CGI is laid over it.

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2008, 12:07:39 AM »
CGI from Battle of britain  2000 anniversary

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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2008, 12:20:58 AM »
Boy am I disappointed in the LW 109 guys around here.  At roughly 8 seconds in to the film, if you Look close, you can see it's a Spanish built "109", a Merlin engined HA 1112 Buchon.  The exhaust stacks are up high, not the inverted DB of a wartime 109.

For shame ya bastages! :)

And if you look close at the Spits you can see they're in the wrong camo for a Merlin 61 Spit, and you can also see the walkways on both sides of the fuselage that are common to restored Spits.

Probably these two birds of the Old Flying Machine Company painted up for the occasion.  They did a lot of film work.  Mark Hanna was killed in an accident in the Buchon.  MH434 is the Spit, and the defaul skin in AH is from that bird.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2008, 12:33:21 AM »
Not to mention that at the very end, the Spitfire flies DIRECTLY in front of the trailing 109 for several seconds and he didn't shoot. Visually the video is pretty well done, the story seems a little lame though...

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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2008, 01:10:34 AM »
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History channel CGI does not look like that.. nor does any other I've ever seen and I used to do 3D work. I call BS on this being CGI.. Also History channel shows various views of their reproductions not gun cam only footage.

If that is CGI then it made some news somewhere so if you guys call CGI.. well prove it. That quality of CGI environment would have made some news somewhere.

It says digitally remastered to color. Not CGI. As to the radio I have no clue on that part could very well be fake and added to the video as well as the sound.


And you really think this is real footage?:lol
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2008, 05:56:39 AM »
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Well now we know why you *used* to do CGI work :)

It's CGI, not hard to spot at all, there are quite a obvious few clues - here's a freebie to start with - control surfaces.

Looks like a helicopter ran a flight path then CGI is laid over it.



If you look at the Showscan website that I posted a link for you will see this video along with others from the company.  This one is listed as "Live action" while others are listed as "CGI" or "CGI/Live action".  It's real footage, just not 1940's "real".

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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2008, 07:07:00 AM »
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It's real footage, just not 1940's "real".

Either way, it's still not guncam footage.
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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2008, 07:18:45 AM »
This is cgi. guncam footage was exposed at 16 fps,hence the usual poor quality.
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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2008, 07:24:27 AM »
Fake, easily noticed.  Not to mention the german is talking in english, "Gunther, my engine is out!"  LMAO!

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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2008, 07:26:49 AM »
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Boy am I disappointed in the LW 109 guys around here.  At roughly 8 seconds in to the film, if you Look close, you can see it's a Spanish built "109", a Merlin engined HA 1112 Buchon.  The exhaust stacks are up high, not the inverted DB of a wartime 109.

For shame ya bastages! :)

And if you look close at the Spits you can see they're in the wrong camo for a Merlin 61 Spit, and you can also see the walkways on both sides of the fuselage that are common to restored Spits.

Probably these two birds of the Old Flying Machine Company painted up for the occasion.  They did a lot of film work.  Mark Hanna was killed in an accident in the Buchon.  MH434 is the Spit, and the defaul skin in AH is from that bird.

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