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Donzo · « **Reply #45 on:** February 18, 2008, 08:04:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Hazzer
This is cgi. guncam footage was exposed at 16 fps,hence the usual poor quality.

It was shot on 70mm film from a chase helicopter at 60 fps.

WWhiskey · « **Reply #46 on:** February 18, 2008, 08:47:10 AM »

If it was real, why would they not shoot down the camera plane first!:aok

crockett · « **Reply #47 on:** February 18, 2008, 09:10:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Donzo
It's not CGI (I thought it was at first, too). It's actual footage shot from a chase helicopter. It was made for a simulation ride.

Check this link under the "DogFight" section.
http://helifilms.homestead.com/ridefilms.html

That film was originated on "Showscan"...the same "property of" watermarked on the video.

Here's a link to ShowScan's website where you can download the video.
http://www.showscan.com/dnn/Films/RideFilms/tabid/91/Default.aspx

Yea I knew that terrain was not CGI.. that's was the basis for my argument against it being CGI. It's why I said the only way it could possible be CGI is if they used a real plane to film the footage then added in the other planes. Even then the smoke is way to good for any CGI smoke I've ever seen.

So are you saying they used real planes with a chase helicopter?

Donzo · « **Reply #48 on:** February 18, 2008, 09:11:48 AM »

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Originally posted by crockett

So are you saying they used real planes with a chase helicopter?

Yes.

crockett · « **Reply #49 on:** February 18, 2008, 09:14:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Donzo
Yes.

cool then that's believable.. I just knew it wasn't CGI..

Hazzer · « **Reply #50 on:** February 18, 2008, 01:18:50 PM »

Granted it isn't cgi,and the 109 is a Buchon,my point was it's not wwII footage.Apologies.

morfiend · « **Reply #51 on:** February 18, 2008, 03:44:16 PM »

It was part of a BBC show comparing the developement of British and german war equipment. I saw in on discovery,they compared the effectiveness of the spits 8 303' to the BF's 7.7 and 20 mm. They stated that the fight would have been a draw as both sides lost an A/C and that do to low fuel the last 109 had to RTB.

They also did a comparison between german and british arty as well as SE5 and fokker triplane,some interesting conclusions were made!!!

Charge · « **Reply #52 on:** February 18, 2008, 03:51:35 PM »

"Boy am I disappointed in the LW 109 guys around here. At roughly 8 seconds in to the film, if you Look close, you can see it's a Spanish built "109", a Merlin engined HA 1112 Buchon. The exhaust stacks are up high, not the inverted DB of a wartime 109."

T'was the first thing I noticed when I first saw this quite some time ago. I hope you are happy now Gup.

-C+

MotorOil1 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 18, 2008, 03:57:55 PM »

Did anyone see tracer fire? Even if the planes didn't have traces you would still see a load coming from the spit near the end with 8 303s.

Not to mention, do you think if you had two 109s on your six you'd be sitting there calmly swinging with your wingman...... I'd be pretty hard on the stick.

I guess the spit engine in the 109 was a bit of a tip off.