This is What A Police State Looks Like

[Suave]

I can't help but notice the uncanny similarities between the methods that the portland police employ and those of the russian police. Video servielance, identify leaders, snatch them, disperse the protest with force and then the state media news reports how a riot was quelled.

[mensa180]

Her voice makes me want to kill myself.

[Yeager]

your points are well taken fishu.  65 million gun owners are a formidble "guerrilla" force

[Holden McGroin]

So the narrator, speaking of police having video of the demonstration says:

I don't want the government having this kind of information about me

So she posts it on the internet for anyone to see.

Apparently she is what an idiot look like.

[JB88]

not for it.  

it is interesting to note that this type of surveillence may have existed even before hitler came to power, as seen in this image of him as a young man in a crowd in munich near the beginning of WWI.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Yeager
your points are well taken fishu.  65 million gun owners are a formidble "guerrilla" force

I hate repeating myself..  

It's not like fascism suddenly appears over a day to oppress the people which of 99.9% are against it. No, it's not like that. Fascism is created step by step by influencing the general population to accept it willingly. The goal is to maintain the opposing side as a small minority and force most of them to adapt or face a toughening life as the majority ignores them as unpatriotic.

The majority is slowly made to accept tiny bit more restrictive laws one after another while keeping a close eye to the level of content of the majority. Most of the people happily live on their lives and they won't even remember how much less restrictive their lives were a few years back. It's  a creeping progress towards the extreme right. At the end the people will find out they're living a very different life, but it's too late to turn back. The freedom has been redefined.

Most of the fascist countries were democracies before the change. All of those were backed by the majority for the first decade or two.

[Sundowner]

Originally posted by Fishu
I hate repeating myself..  

It's not like fascism suddenly appears over a day to oppress the people which of 99.9% are against it. No, it's not like that. Fascism is created step by step by influencing the general population to accept it willingly. The goal is to maintain the opposing side as a small minority and force most of them to adapt or face a toughening life as the majority ignores them as unpatriotic.

The majority is slowly made to accept tiny bit more restrictive laws one after another while keeping a close eye to the level of content of the majority. Most of the people happily live on their lives and they won't even remember how much less restrictive their lives were a few years back. It's  a creeping progress towards the extreme right. At the end the people will find out they're living a very different life, but it's too late to turn back. The freedom has been redefined.

Most of the fascist countries were democracies before the change. All of those were backed by the majority for the first decade or two.

Very good explanation of incrementalism and how it's used to bring about social change (in this case fascism) right before an unsuspecting population's eyes.

Regards,
Sun

[Sundowner]

Originally posted by Suave
I can't help but notice the uncanny similarities between the methods that the portland police employ and those of the russian police. Video servielance, identify leaders, snatch them, disperse the protest with force and then the state media news reports how a riot was quelled.

I agree.

Regards,
Sun

[Elfie]

I saw a peaceful demonstration that was exercising their first amendment rights to speak out against the government broken up, imo, illegally. I saw no violence from any of the protesters. Were some of them rude? Sure, but being rude isn't the same as being violent.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Sundowner
Any questions?
(caution:some objectionable language)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19347.htm

Regards,
Sun

                         This has to be one of the most moronic pieces of leftist, liberal trash Ive seen in a long time. But Ive been to Oregon, Washington State, and parts of California. The 1960s Hippies and Yuppies had to find somewhere to live after their little revolution ran out of steam.

                         Video is very easily edited as is the audio. I guess that never occurred to you Elfie. The flagburners who put this together clearly had an agenda and no doubt showing criminal actions of Protesters wasnt high on their list.  And I think the nitwit who was is orating it should sit down with one of the Holocaust survivors before she starts comparing America to Nazi Germany.

                        The only Fascist country that started off as a Democracy I can think of was Germany in between the world wars. Even then Democracy was short lived and tenuous.

                      Im all ears Fishu if you can name others.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Fishu
I hate repeating myself..  

It's not like fascism suddenly appears over a day to oppress the people which of 99.9% are against it. No, it's not like that. Fascism is created step by step by influencing the general population to accept it willingly. The goal is to maintain the opposing side as a small minority and force most of them to adapt or face a toughening life as the majority ignores them as unpatriotic.

The majority is slowly made to accept tiny bit more restrictive laws one after another while keeping a close eye to the level of content of the majority. Most of the people happily live on their lives and they won't even remember how much less restrictive their lives were a few years back. It's  a creeping progress towards the extreme right. At the end the people will find out they're living a very different life, but it's too late to turn back. The freedom has been redefined.

Most of the fascist countries were democracies before the change. All of those were backed by the majority for the first decade or two.

So if it is not illegal, and if a majority of the population wants it...what is the basis for your objection? You know better than the majority and the government? Yeah, that was the sort of justification the RAF used to motivate their actions.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Yeager
I would be careful with that garbage sundowner.  You could end up upsetting a genuine American someday and with typical luck of a fool there wont be any police from your dreaded police state nearby to help you.

Just an observation  

Protect me from what?

In 46 years I've yet to see the police "protect" me from anything.

I have however when I was a kid seen two cops do nothing but sit in their car watching as I had to fist fight two home boys trying to rob me of a new tire I had picked up for my bicycle.

Afterwards when I complained ot them about their inaction they said "What did you want us to do. You got your tire back didnt you?"

I learned right then and there you cant trust the police can protect you from anything. Even if they see it happening.

At BEST. The police are first responders AFTER sopmething has already happend.

The time they actually protect people out of the times they respond to something that happened is probably in the range of 1 in 10,000.

[Rollins]

So where does her little speech stop about not wanting the government  to have her activities on record stop; and her diatribe about free speech begin?
Good stuff, le sweetheart bags...

[Rich46yo]

So you dont think we "protect" anyone? The countless violent felons, predators, scam artists, and lifelong criminals we lock up every day? You dont think that "protects" anyone?

                        I just got convictions on an armed stickup crew I caught in the act of holding up a Liquor store. They had pistol whipped the owner and told him they were going to kill him. Luckily for him he was able to get to the alarm and we caught them guns still in hands. You dont think that, and all the scores like that a copper does in his career doesnt "protect" anyone?

                      Your 46yo DredIock. Its really time to grow up. Ive made countless on view felony pinches that nobody ever called me for first.

                      But on behalf of all my LEO brothers and sisters I'd like to say "thanks" for stereotyping all 400,000 of us due to your little adventure as a little kid on your little bicycle.  You got issues dude.

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Protect me from what?

In 46 years I've yet to see the police "protect" me from anything.

I have however when I was a kid seen two cops do nothing but sit in their car watching as I had to fist fight two home boys trying to rob me of a new tire I had picked up for my bicycle.

Afterwards when I complained ot them about their inaction they said "What did you want us to do. You got your tire back didnt you?"

I learned right then and there you cant trust the police can protect you from anything. Even if they see it happening.

At BEST. The police are first responders AFTER sopmething has already happend.

The time they actually protect people out of the times they respond to something that happened is probably in the range of 1 in 10,000.

[SWrokit]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
So you dont think we "protect" anyone? The countless violent felons, predators, scam artists, and lifelong criminals we lock up every day? You dont think that "protects" anyone?

                        I just got convictions on an armed stickup crew I caught in the act of holding up a Liquor store. They had pistol whipped the owner and told him they were going to kill him. Luckily for him he was able to get to the alarm and we caught them guns still in hands. You dont think that, and all the scores like that a copper does in his career doesnt "protect" anyone?

                      Your 46yo DredIock. Its really time to grow up. Ive made countless on view felony pinches that nobody ever called me for first.

                      But on behalf of all my LEO brothers and sisters I'd like to say "thanks" for stereotyping all 400,000 of us due to your little adventure as a little kid on your little bicycle.  You got issues dude.

  You basically covered it, saved me from climbing up on the soap box