Author Topic: Penalty for bomb n bail (Read 2160 times)

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2008, 01:56:28 PM »

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Originally posted by AAolds
spikes, guy could have deceny to say something.

Why should he? There are more pressing matters that need HiTech's attention and this is certainly not one of them.

ack-ack

AAolds · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:08:43 PM »

I think Whels suggestion would work best. Nullify the damage done by plane that bails without suffering damage due to enemy fire.

Karnak · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:15:02 PM »

Disallow bailing out of undamaged aircraft, fighters and bombers alike.

Krusty · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:21:39 PM »

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Originally posted by AAolds
Whels made good suggestion on 200

Why not have Bomb n Bailers damage not count if they bail from undamaged plane due to enemy fire.

Because most times they wait to bail til AFTER they see if they've hit their target or not.

AAolds · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:27:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Because most times they wait to bail til AFTER they see if they've hit their target or not.

Hence why Whels suggestion would work well.

Krusty · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:31:20 PM »

Not really. A lot of times I've seen a bomb-n-bailer he's been 10k+ and level. He flies 1/2 a sector past the target to make sure he hit something then bails. So what if he bails after 2 minutes? What if he bails after 10?

What if he flies half an hour to land (no damage at all, never saw an enemy) and bails. Does the damage just revert?

Too gamey. Fields would fluctuate up and down nonstop. It would be chaos.

There needs to be a system that takes this into account.

Denholm · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:45:34 PM »

Going back to kill shooter, if the bomber simply has a friendly fly up behind him, he can shoot at him until damage shows in Ctrl + D on all his planes in his formation. I don't think the game codes decides between enemy and self-induced fire. And thus the bombers can bail out without the damage being reverted.

The payoff from this system wouldn't be enough to go through the hassle of implementing it. Although it would be nice to see more realistic mission, I don't think this would do anything to enhance people's experience.

Krusty · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2008, 02:50:49 PM »

Currently I think bomber guns won't harm other friendly planes. I seem to recall somebody in MA shooting me up (both in bombers) but not taking FF. I think it only counts for fixed guns, maybe.

EDIT: The B-25 and B-26 and Ju88 could still do it, though. They have fixed guns in nose.

Denholm · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2008, 03:00:42 PM »

Thanks for the info Krusty, I did not know this.

Tilt · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2008, 03:01:04 PM »

Perk bombs........... perk bailing

Denholm · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2008, 03:01:34 PM »

How will that help?

Bronk · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2008, 03:34:29 PM »

Perk drones.

WildeSau · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2008, 05:20:51 PM »

I would guess most bomber perk's aren't used. ( this mainly happen in late war, from what I see) and I don't see that many 234's flying around. and the one's I do see will try to land. ( not just bail) I wonder why ? ( could it be that they cost perk's to fly ), most people who fly perk plane's don't like to lose them. just because this a cartoon game, its the thought of you losing something that make alot of people motivated. So what do you do with all those point's ?. ( i just look at them when i'm picking out my next plane). I would think they might not bail so much if it cost them something for not trying to land, (and if you have to leave the game because of a real life crisis you lose the point's just like if you were flying a tempest ot 262 .) Perk the bomber's Imo.

macleod01 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2008, 08:34:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
EDIT: The B-25 and B-26 and Ju88 could still do it, though. They have fixed guns in nose.

Sorry Krusty, I was in 88's the other night in the rear gun and accidently pinged a friendly. I heard the killshooter getting me, so I took damage. Not sure if your talking about just the fixed guns or all guns in those plans. If its all, Forget what I just said.

On the note of the topic. The whole idea of costing perks would be really annoying. Ive got a few stick problems (Doesnt connect properly) Wheich means at times I lose control. Only way to get it back is to bail and quit game. So does that mean I lose perks because ive got a hardware problem? I would say thats unfair. It would be a very very thin line to distinguish who bailed for a good reason and who bailed just to Bomb and bail again.
As for the idea of the damage being void, what happens if the bomb the last building in town, and an M3 instantly dumps troops into map room. Field Captured so the guy bails. What happensto the field? Does it revert? If so it causes an outcry in that country. If HT thinks it needs to be fixed, They'll fix it

AWwrgwy · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:48:54 AM »

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Originally posted by AAolds
Whels made good suggestion on 200

Why not have Bomb n Bailers damage not count if they bail from undamaged plane due to enemy fire.

Ooold thread

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