Author Topic: When Plane burns (Read 1412 times)

BlackJack · « **on:** February 25, 2008, 01:34:31 PM »

Ok in world war 2 I don't think the people inside planes actually thought about shooting someone while on fire or cock pit smoked. How about while its on fire first you black out and come back and if ur not landed or bailed you get pilot wound from burns,and/or lose controls and can't fly it. Because I don't like the fact some planes can shoot down 2 more before wing breaks off. It would be much more realistic, because again I don't think you'd be thinking about dogfighting when on fire.

Latrobe · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2008, 01:45:01 PM »

I agree that something has to be done about burning planes being able to fly perfectly fine. Maybe as the plane burns you start loosing peices off your plane.

I'd also like a new sound for getting pilot wounded. When you get PW'd it sounds exactly like when you get shot and loose a part of your plane.

Saxman · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2008, 01:56:55 PM »

New Pilot Wound

Krusty · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2008, 02:25:53 PM »

I want fire to melt the wires to your trigger button. That is, you can no longer fire fixed guns when on fire. Bombers can drop bombs if only to pickle them -- but I say this only because I'd like fire to do more than it does.

I want a fire to destroy things around it. If it's in a wing tank, I want it to disable the guns in that wing, destroy the gear in that wing, destroy the flaps, destroy the oil cooler (if spit/109 type of wing oil cooler).

I want it to do this gradually. THEN finally the wing pops off. So, instead of this "long wait then BOOM" I want "you can't fight and keep losing stuff every 15 seconds" -- this gives you a chance to go and set 'er down or RTB and get down in time if possible. However you still lose that part if you wait too long.

Here's the fun part: If it's a fuselage fire, I want it to be able to set bomber bombs on fire! It could be one of the parts that get "damaged" -- and the bomber has to pickle all the bombs before they blow.

Center parts that could get burn up include other fuel tanks, nose gear, radiators/coolers (depending on plane type and location of fire), and on single engined fighters: the PILOT will get wounded (just as shot) if the fire continues too long.

The overall time to death would extend, but the fight would be over instantly and it would be a race to survival.

THAT is what I want to see with fires!

EDIT: As the parts "go" you could just hear the "loud bang" noise in AH already and the part goes red on the damage list -- it's a very simple thing to include IMO, don't need to add any graphics!

BlackJack · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:21:06 PM »

How about lose total control and do a death spiral not being able to control the plane just a big spin to the ground, while pieces flying off this would be good.

Spikes · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:26:58 PM »

Something...anything.

I hate to steal a kill from someone who shot up a zeke and is burning because zeke's can fly to no end while burning.

VooWho · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:31:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I want fire to melt the wires to your trigger button. That is, you can no longer fire fixed guns when on fire. Bombers can drop bombs if only to pickle them -- but I say this only because I'd like fire to do more than it does.

I want a fire to destroy things around it. If it's in a wing tank, I want it to disable the guns in that wing, destroy the gear in that wing, destroy the flaps, destroy the oil cooler (if spit/109 type of wing oil cooler).

I want it to do this gradually. THEN finally the wing pops off. So, instead of this "long wait then BOOM" I want "you can't fight and keep losing stuff every 15 seconds" -- this gives you a chance to go and set 'er down or RTB and get down in time if possible. However you still lose that part if you wait too long.

Here's the fun part: If it's a fuselage fire, I want it to be able to set bomber bombs on fire! It could be one of the parts that get "damaged" -- and the bomber has to pickle all the bombs before they blow.

Center parts that could get burn up include other fuel tanks, nose gear, radiators/coolers (depending on plane type and location of fire), and on single engined fighters: the PILOT will get wounded (just as shot) if the fire continues too long.

The overall time to death would extend, but the fight would be over instantly and it would be a race to survival.

THAT is what I want to see with fires!

EDIT: As the parts "go" you could just hear the "loud bang" noise in AH already and the part goes red on the damage list -- it's a very simple thing to include IMO, don't need to add any graphics!

I love this Idea. Do we get engine fires on bombers or are they just fuel? But if we get engine fires I would just rather love to see the fire eat away your engine and then maybe burn off your flaps rather the usually, BOOM an omg my whole wing fell off. If theres a fire in the middle of the bomber the flames eat away the skin and skeleton of the plane and it snaps in half.

BlackJack · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:32:43 PM »

This is my first good idea =D. It's just I got alot of stolen kills from just lighting them up then seeing someone else blow it to pieces.

Krusty · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:44:03 PM »

Blackjack: That would be no different than an instant pilot kill. Fire wouldn't lead to instant death. The reason we have fire is just or added effect, anyways. It wasn't always there.

Also, the idea of changing the way fire works isn't new, but I've only just recently thought up my latest "wish" -- as described in this thread.

BlackJack · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:45:10 PM »

Not instant death krusty just lose control of plane unable to fly it and just burn to ground not able to shoot other planes down.

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:48:42 PM »

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Originally posted by BlackJack
Not instant death krusty just lose control of plane unable to fly it and just burn to ground not able to shoot other planes down.

That's the same as losing a wing right now. It just doesn't really seem to compare to how planes on fire act. Usually planes spiral out of control when the pilot is killed (and sometimes fire can kill a pilot), but not always, and not if the fire is away from the cockpit.

BlackJack · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:50:06 PM »

But krusty think would a plane have full control if on fire? or be able to see out of cockpit? I'm just saying its a good idea. I hate the fact that planes burn for 2 minutes of more.

Denholm · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:52:38 PM »

BlackJack, a few incidents influence a spiral to the ground. In some instances I've read of pilots that were on fire but shot down their enemies before crash landing to save themselves. Some of the incidents which influence a spiral to the ground are:

1. Your hydraulic systems got fried.
2. Your steering cables got fried / snapped.
3. Smoke / oil is obscuring your view.
4. The fire got in the cockpit.

In some cases all of the above will occur, in other instances none will occur. So you can't simply spiral to your death if you're on fire, because in reality, it didn't always happen.

BlackJack · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:59:27 PM »

Ok but why be lit on fire for 2 minutes straight pieces braking and coming off would be good.

BaDkaRmA158Th · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2008, 04:23:29 PM »

Correct me if im wrong, but fire has a very bad effect on the surfices of a plane, something about how the air/fire mix and you get more drag and less lift .ect

So a plane with a left wing on fire, might kick to the left, and rip its nose left/down and spin down.

if memory serves.