P39 damage.

[VansCrew1]

Since the engine is mounted behind the pilot who would a old leak affect the cockpit? would you be able to see oil on the back of the windscreen? Also would the shaft running from the engine to the prop be sustainable to damage?

[Bosco123]

NOOOOO!!! VC is right on this one.

[angelsandair]

Originally posted by VansCrew1
Since the engine is mounted behind the pilot who would a old leak affect the cockpit? would you be able to see oil on the back of the windscreen? Also would the shaft running from the engine to the prop be sustainable to damage?

Well i think that you wont be able to see your six if its oil damage and with the engine shaft, well It would have to be one lucky shot...but then again, when hundreds of bullets are flying at you (unless they 20mm), if they hit you, one is bound to hit it i guess.

[VansCrew1]

I'm just wondering if they modeled it like that or they did something different. And another thing i found the P39 used a battery that was used to put the gears up and down. Also it helped with other things. Would the battery be a damage option? if the battery was hit, would you have to belly land your P39.

I'm not saying that these are damage option's I'm just wondering if they were, how would it effect the plane's performance. The battery would not be a big thing i believe they placed it into an heavily armored area but you never know.

The Drive shaft is a main thing tho. If that was hit would it be like a radiator hit where if you use the engine would over hear and freeze up or the shaft just break. The good thing about having the engine behind you Pilot wounds would be less but i would assume that oil hit and radiator hits would increass.

[Motherland]

Originally posted by VansCrew1
I'm just wondering if they modeled it like that or they did something different. And another thing i found the P39 used a battery that was used to put the gears up and down. Also it helped with other things. Would the battery be a damage option? if the battery was hit, would you have to belly land your P39.
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Hydrolic lines are not damage options. So I thoroughly doubt it.

[VansCrew1]

What did they use the battery for then? though i read they use it to raise and lower the gears...or was it flaps. I cant remember and i cant fine the web page where i seen it .

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Well the thing is, you would only get oil on the window if..
1:the top of the engine took enough hits to *blow up* and thus enough oil would get thrown in all directions.
2:If its just hole, its highly doubtful it would spurt against the wind just to it could ruin the pilots rear view.


The shaft will most likely not be a singled out damage component, i can instead however see its as being a *part* of the engines damage system. Same with the transfer case up in the nose, im willing to bet if this is the case, the p39 will be a very easy aircraft to take down, simply because if you are to strike from nose to rudder, you would hit transfer case,cannon, machine guns,pilot,engine,fuel,rudder.

Thats alot of damage options for one pass on a plane.

lets hope her armor stands stuff.

:Edit:Vans, the batt was probably in case the engine died on takeoff/landing or due to combat damage, the pilot could still operate,safely land the plane.

it would have sucked badly to take off, engine stall, and not be able to put your gear down "or flaps" because they have no power from engines.

[DoNKeY]

Since the engine is behind the cockpit (my understanding) then the only way oil would get on the rear part of the cockpit glass would be if it was hit just as the plane entered a stall going vertical and fell straight down before it started to spin/roll over.

donkey

[Bodhi]

Hit the prop reduction gear housing or prop dome and you could have an oil leak over the wind screen.

[Motherland]

Originally posted by VansCrew1
What did they use the battery for then? though i read they use it to raise and lower the gears...or was it flaps. I cant remember and i cant fine the web page where i seen it .

It probably was used to raise/lower gear/flaps, but it wont be damageable in AH, since you cant damage the hydrolic lines that are used on most planes. Sorry if I confused you.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Bodhi, im not sure if it used oil up in the transfer case, or just heavy duty grease.

[Guppy35]

Might it be worth waiting to at least have the 39 and finding out what we've got before we worry too much about what they might or might not have done with it?

[zorstorer]

Originally posted by Guppy35
Might it be worth waiting to at least have the 39 and finding out what we've got before we worry too much about what they might or might not have done with it?

Come on Dan you know we have to jump the gun on these types of things

Remember the Ki84 threads???

[angelsandair]

Well, since the P-39 was supposed to protect the pilot, i bet you cant see ANYTHING behind you.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by zorstorer
Come on Dan you know we have to jump the gun on these types of things

Remember the Ki84 threads???

My dream is that some of these folks might do a little research just once in a while before posting  Plenty of info out there beyond the web regarding the 39

I might suggest "Cobra!-Bell Aircraft Corporation 1934-1946" by Birch Matthews as a starting point but if you are serious about the 39 and 63 design and development it's worth the money at least in my opinion.

Certainly a number of good books are out there about Groups that flew the 39 and even books by folks who flew it in combat.

They didn't put the engine behind the cockpit to protect the pilot for example.  And if you did a bit of digging you might see how it was set up for the pilot to see behind.

But that's just me dreaming