Author Topic: 1st kill (Read 3927 times)

Suave · « **Reply #60 on:** March 02, 2008, 11:25:30 PM »

Back to the subject. My mother sent me a polaroid of my grandfather standing next to his kill in November '07. A wapiti (that's elk to you greenhorns) with a HUGE six point rack (that's 12 point to you greenhorns). My grandfather is 93 and he lives in the Colorado rockies. That's impressive because as any of you who have hunted in the rockies know, you can't do it from sitting in a car. And they aren't allowed to bait or feed like when they "hunt" in texas. You have to actually go out into the forested mountains and use tracking and hunting skills.

I would upload the pic if somebody could point me to some relatively uncomplicated webspace.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #61 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:56:12 AM »

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That's impressive because as any of you who have hunted in the rockies know, you can't do it from sitting in a car. And they aren't allowed to bait or feed like when they "hunt" in texas. .

I hear a lot about they and their cousins them, but I don`t know any personally.

SIG220 · « **Reply #62 on:** March 03, 2008, 07:19:53 AM »

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It was meant to articulate nothing besides a personal insult. Did it appear that I was trying to convey something else? He got very whiney at the end there, and I responded to it. And yes, those are the only kinds of words my brain is capable of manufacturing...and only barely at that. My brain is a union shop, and most of the employees are near retirement and thus pretty useless.

One final thought (i don't think i could make any more than one more)... if you think my post looked foolish or worse, then you should probably just attribute it to me. Particularly considering that I spent the entire day today out target shooting some bolt action .17 HMR, .22 and .223 rifles, in preparation to use the former on defenseless sage rats near Unity in the next month or so. In other words, you're jumping to a baseless conclusion. ie: his sandy vagina has nothing to do with his views on hunting. I'm not entirely clear on where your sand was acquired, but I'm picking up that you're probably not too keen on discussing it with me.

It was also a very senseless and inane remark that you made, and was offensive in the language it used too.

And that applies no matter who you are.

indy007 · « **Reply #63 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:09:25 AM »

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Then why are you here commenting?

Because I think hunters are funny? I don't know anybody else willing to smear themselves with animal urine or hide in a box for hours on end.

I don't care that people hunt, I understand wildlife management (my mother worked for the s.c. wildlife department for years)... but the crap you have to go through just to get some gamey meat (that most I know don't even eat) makes me think they've lost their minds.

The "teaching kids to respect nature" bit is really funny though. I, personally, wouldn't think respect is about finding the most beautiful specimen of something you can... and blasting holes in it so you can stick its head on a wall. Don't be a puss, and call it was it is. You're harvesting trophies, and that's it. What's the difference between a bunch of cows at a slaughterhouse and deer fenced into a hunting lease? Not much besides distance... except nobody wants the cow head on their wall.

edit: The only manly hunting is going after something double your body-weight with a knife.

lazs2 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:28:38 AM »

indy.. I like the taste of hamburger and steak and I like the taste of elk and venison. Have you ever seen how livestock are harvested? perhaps that would be a good nature lesson for kids?

Have you ever seen how animals die in the wild? I'm sure you have seen some nature programs.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:31:53 AM »

suave.. I really think that hunting women is a waste of time and makes you look like a fool to everyone around you. In the end.. the conquest mentality is bad for everyone around you including yourself.

With minimal effort you can find women.. if they don't like who you are they can leave and some other one will take their place.. that works a lot better for me than some elaborate scheme and pretending to be someone or something you are not. I think if you teach a kid that promiscuous stuff that you are damaging him.

survival? if you have the warm fire and the guns.. the women will come. If you are worth a damn.. they will stay.

lazs

SOB · « **Reply #66 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:32:32 AM »

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It was also a very senseless and inane remark that you made, and was offensive in the language it used too.

And that applies no matter who you are.

I know, I'm a terrible person, and I hope Rich can recover. Though, something tells me he'll be OK after being insulted by some random 'tard on the Internet. And if the word vagina offends you, I'm sorry. That would really be a shame.

FiLtH · « **Reply #67 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:35:40 AM »

I have no problem with hunters eating what they kill. Its the poachers and types that kill lions etc just for the thrill I have no interest in.

midnight Target · « **Reply #68 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:38:42 AM »

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I know, I'm a terrible person, and I hope Rich can recover. Though, something tells me he'll be OK after being insulted by some random 'tard on the Internet. And if the word vagina offends you, I'm sorry. That would really be a shame.

I only hope you can recover from that strenuous finger wag. Maybe a walk on the beach with Airhead?

SOB · « **Reply #69 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:40:54 AM »

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The "teaching kids to respect nature" bit is really funny though. I, personally, wouldn't think respect is about finding the most beautiful specimen of something you can... and blasting holes in it so you can stick its head on a wall. Don't be a puss, and call it was it is. You're harvesting trophies, and that's it. What's the difference between a bunch of cows at a slaughterhouse and deer fenced into a hunting lease? Not much besides distance... except nobody wants the cow head on their wall.

Ha, I'm not that fond of having stuffed dead animals in my home, but if I had a cabin, I might just need to have the head of a Holstein stuffed and mounted on the wall. Would it be in bad taste to also mount the udder lower down on the wall?

SOB · « **Reply #70 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:42:15 AM »

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I only hope you can recover from that strenuous finger wag. Maybe a walk on the beach with Airhead?

Maybe, but I think I'm gonna need some hand holding time and a back rub too.

lazs2 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:44:25 AM »

No interest in stuffed animals but my dentist who is a great guy has a bunch of em.. he is a 7 or 8 time boone and crockett record holder and he doesn't eat the meat.. he donates it. He also takes underprivlidged kids for hunts with his meager spare time.. he also buys homes and rents them to deserving people for far under the going rate. often taking a big loss.

lazs

midnight Target · « **Reply #72 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:51:07 AM »

There is a mounted cougar, and a pronghorn head in our office. The cougar likes to dress up for Christmas, and pronghorns are great for stringing lights on.

indy007 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:55:00 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
indy.. I like the taste of hamburger and steak and I like the taste of elk and venison. Have you ever seen how livestock are harvested? perhaps that would be a good nature lesson for kids?

Have you ever seen how animals die in the wild? I'm sure you have seen some nature programs.

lazs

Every kid should visit a slaughterhouse. Didn't phase my love of tasty meat one bit. I rather enjoy venison... I'm just not willing go through the hassle and mess of killing it myself... same goes for elk, alligator, shark... and especially bison. I very rarely eat hamburger anymore, almost always substituted for bison meat. Tastier, healthier, about the same price at the grocery store. Everybody would make the switch if they knew about it, and it were convenient for them like it is for me.

..and you can't compare nature programs to hunting. The only time that will ever be applicable, is when you see a hunter run down a deer on foot and tear its throat out with his teeth. That's why, imho, it's not a "manly" activity. The only real challenge is the patience required... and hell you get more practice at patience just sitting in Houston traffic. It's just... too risk-free to be really "manly". You're in more danger from drunk hunters than from the animals.

There's a group of CEOs that get together annually. They go hunt a single bear. They do it with spears. That's pretty damn dangerous, and therefore, manly. High-powered rifles against something that doesn't even have opposable thumbs, definately not-manly.

indy007 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 03, 2008, 08:56:51 AM »

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Ha, I'm not that fond of having stuffed dead animals in my home, but if I had a cabin, I might just need to have the head of a Holstein stuffed and mounted on the wall. Would it be in bad taste to also mount the udder lower down on the wall?

If you rig the udder to dispense milk, I want to see it.

I'll bring beer.