Flakpanzer is far to overpowered

[Kweassa]

Maybe HTC could make buildings immune to guns under 50mm.

 I'm not too certain if a 37mm anti-aircraft gun can so easily bring down a brick-wall building with short burst attacks.

[evenhaim]

i believe most of you have missed the point urchin was brining up the idea that flakpanzers are too effective against buildings....

and i agree

[Karnak]

Last Il-2 attack on GVs that I did I took out three Ostwinds. I did it by being very steady on the aim, narrowing my field of view to get a more realistic scale, and firing from beyond 1,000 yards.  In each case I killed the turret, though the third one got me too.

Personally I am looking forward to the Whirbelwind as it will be less effective against the Il-2.

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Urchin
I imagine this should be clear to anyone, but it probably isn't.  


  Instead, use a flight of level bombers and carpet suicide-bomb the GVs!  Garbage in = garbage out.

Flak panzers bad. One pilot flying 3 fully loaded heavy bombers to go after said ground vehicles good.

Yeah, perk the GV with the single gun and Give the bomber dweeb six bombers to control just to be fair.  

[Urchin]

I'd say something about sarcasm, except you apparently can't even comprehend non-sarcastic speech.  

What part of the quoted sentence DIDN'T you understand?

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Fact of the matter is, once this next update comes out, ground vehicals will need to worry about planes alot more.

Il-2's 23mm
hurr's 40mm's
B-25's 75mm
yak's 37mm
p-39's 37mm

Considering 4 out of those five can carry bombs too..
Give me one good reason these things need to be perked again?



Also, i would like it to be noted, i recently found some "drawings" of p39K's with x6 rocket tubes on the wings.


Wowzers

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Urchin
I'd say something about sarcasm, except you apparently can't even comprehend non-sarcastic speech.  

What part of the quoted sentence DIDN'T you understand?

Most people don't even bother to read em anymore Urch.   They're in a hurry to "outdo the other" with sarcastic replies.  

I've said for over 3 years, the two quickest ways to drop a town are in a 110 or an Ostie.    I agree with you.

[Gixer]

Urchin is correct the FP is overpowered. But when you look overall at the GV's it's a bit of a mess and always has been the most gamey part of AH.


...-Gixer

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by evenhaim
i believe most of you have missed the point urchin was brining up the idea that flakpanzers are too effective against buildings....

and i agree

Then I guess the next logical point to make is...

20mm cannons and .50 cal machine guns... Should be completely innefectual to buildings.  (There are plenty of holes in older buildings in France and Germany to illustrate this point. 60 years after the war.. buildings are standing right where they got strafed.)

You can't have it both ways.. and I suspect the coad is the way it is for gameplay.

[moot]

Originally posted by Kweassa
Maybe HTC could make buildings immune to guns under 50mm.

 I'm not too certain if a 37mm anti-aircraft gun can so easily bring down a brick-wall building with short burst attacks.

Not immune... hehe.

[evenhaim]

Originally posted by MORAY37
Then I guess the next logical point to make is...

20mm cannons and .50 cal machine guns... Should be completely innefectual to buildings.  (There are plenty of holes in older buildings in France and Germany to illustrate this point. 60 years after the war.. buildings are standing right where they got strafed.)

You can't have it both ways.. and I suspect the coad is the way it is for gameplay.

agreed but the fact of the matter is 30 20mm or how ever many it takes to drop a building should do more damage then 2 or 3 37mms from an ostie.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by evenhaim
agreed but the fact of the matter is 30 20mm or how ever many it takes to drop a building should do more damage then 2 or 3 37mms from an ostie.

the relative damage value of 20mm and 37mm is pretty similar

1 20mm Hispano does ~ 4 points of damage
1 37mm Ostwind HE does ~ 16 points of damage - thats 4x the damage of a 20mm round while being a 6x larger shell

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Xasthur
Turreting a flak panzer is not difficult, you need to make your attack from a steep angle and that's it.

Make your attacks quick and difficult to target and you won't have a problem.

I don't believe I have ever turreted an Ostie. I have tried from every conceivable angle. Others have no problems turreting my Osties though.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Elfie
I don't believe I have ever turreted an Ostie. I have tried from every conceivable angle. Others have no problems turreting my Osties though.

I'll be MORE THAN happy to show you how.

[Ghastly]

Can you kill Flak's with 50 cals?

I've been avoiding shooting anything but M3's and M16's since I didn't think I could kill anything else?