My Love/Hate with the Lightning

[goober69]

That is just sooo true

and soooo SAD!!!!

[Delirium]

Normally, I just check the SAPP forums but Guppy/Corky told me you were looking for me, S1n1ster. Thanks for the kind praise, but I am by far the worst P38 stick in the 80th and SAPP as well, I tend to fly and shoot like a blind, deaf man with Parkinson's.

The p38 is an easy plane to fly, hard to master and like Corky said, it doesn't reward timidness. You are going to get your bellybutton handed to you so many times you'll feel like you're the main course at a gay bar, but do not give up.

[Murdr]

Don't listen to Del on the part about how bad a 38 pilot he is.  Getting whupped by him as well as a 1/2 dozen other I can think of in a 38, is the rule and not the exception.

[Guppy35]

Don't listen to Del on the part about how bad a 38 pilot he is.  Getting whupped by him as well as a 1/2 dozen other I can think of in a 38, is the rule and not the exception.

What Murdr said.  Del is scary in the 38....then again so is Murdr

Fun guys to fly with

[Cthulhu]

just pray to dark Cthulhu that the guy who just shot you down comes down with runny Leprosy and double Ebola.

I'm also available for birthday parties and bar mitzvah's.   

[SgtPappy]

How bout a bat mitzvah for my friends?

Oh btw guys, I'm going to get flambéd, shot, and likely hanged for this but what advantages does the P-38 have against something like a Spitfire VIII? I.e., the obvious would be no torque and thus the ability to zoom endlessly but does anyone else find that the turn rate of the P-38J seems to be faster than most a/c at very low speeds, particularly but not exclusive to the vertical?

Ive been wanting to fly the bird for a long time now so I'd like some advice from you SAPPers. I've checked out Murdr's and Ack-Ack's films, btw, great job guys!

[Ack-Ack]

How bout a bat mitzvah for my friends?

Oh btw guys, I'm going to get flambéd, shot, and likely hanged for this but what advantages does the P-38 have against something like a Spitfire VIII? I.e., the obvious would be no torque and thus the ability to zoom endlessly but does anyone else find that the turn rate of the P-38J seems to be faster than most a/c at very low speeds, particularly but not exclusive to the vertical?

Ive been wanting to fly the bird for a long time now so I'd like some advice from you SAPPers. I've checked out Murdr's and Ack-Ack's films, btw, great job guys!

One of the best tips I can give for fighting against a Spitfire Mk VIII or any other Spitfire for that matter is never engage in an angles fight in the medium speed range.  You'll just be chewed to bits if you do.  If at all possible, keep the fight fast, above 300mph IAS, ideally in the 300mph to 350mph IAS range.  If you do get caught slow, try to get the fight as slow as possible, ideally in the stall speed range to take advantage of the P-38's better low/stall speed handling and use maneuvers like stall loops and the Cloverleaf and you may just walk away the victor.


ack-ack

[Hazard69]

One of the best tips I can give for fighting against a Spitfire Mk VIII or any other Spitfire for that matter is never engage in an angles fight in the medium speed range.  You'll just be chewed to bits if you do.  If at all possible, keep the fight fast, above 300mph IAS, ideally in the 300mph to 350mph IAS range.  If you do get caught slow, try to get the fight as slow as possible, ideally in the stall speed range to take advantage of the P-38's better low/stall speed handling and use maneuvers like stall loops and the Cloverleaf and you may just walk away the victor.


ack-ack

So thats what I've been doing wrong!

[Yossarian]

Ive been wanting to fly the bird for a long time now so I'd like some advice from you SAPPers. I've checked out Murdr's and Ack-Ack's films, btw, great job guys!

Where can I find these films?

<S>

Yossarian

[The Fugitive]

THIS IS THE LINK from Ak-AKs signature

[SgtPappy]

I think it's been discussed before, but with no confirmation. Is our P-38J (-10 or -15 not sure) a little too heavy? I suspect we have a J-15 with re-engineered electrical systems since my right prop doesn't run away when my left engine dies.

I mean here's no possible way it could POSSIBLY be the same weight as the P-38L even though it is in this game and every book/internet source I've read so far states that the P-38L's weight is correct.

[Gman]

Ack Ack hit the jugular with that post.  That's exactly how I think when I'm flying P38 vs pretty much every t/b aircraft.  Not always successfully, but that's the goal.

[tokenjo]

Just gotta out of the MA ... was flying the G model over GV land most the night... what a blast ... I love the way it handles ... even w/no wep.  Kept the nose at 2 on the ROC out meter.. kept speed about 200-250 .. didnt really care what alt I achieved ... man it turned like a dream .. dove great .. was a BLAST !!  I would like to hit the TA for some additional 38 training .. if and when time permits .. Been flying since 96 AW FR Arena, the 38 is one of the hardest planes to master and seems to take the most patience.   Reminded me of the AW days ... 5k fites over the pond.

One question ... tho .. is it better to trim the ride manually or combat trim ? 

Later's

Tokenjo,  Jospe.

[SgtPappy]

yea, Tokenjo. I've read more than once to keep the trim at neutral at all times. I did so and there is a handling difference but I'm not sure if I was achieving anything. Let's wait for a SAPP to clarify...

Random thought: everytime i transition to a new a/c someone starts tonnes of threads on that plane. I feel stalked. 

[Guppy35]

yea, Tokenjo. I've read more than once to keep the trim at neutral at all times. I did so and there is a handling difference but I'm not sure if I was achieving anything. Let's wait for a SAPP to clarify...

Random thought: everytime i transition to a new a/c someone starts tonnes of threads on that plane. I feel stalked. 

LOL you feel stalked?

Try flying the 38G all the time