More Planes and Game Play Wishlist

[aenigma]

Hello all >S<,

I thought of listing my wish list and despite some stuff on it may be a repeat on someone else's wish list, This is what I like to see.

American planes:

PB2Y Coronado
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV
C54 Skymaster
C46 Commando
SB2C Helldiver
P61 Black Widow
A26 Invader
B29 Superfortress


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden
G8n Renzan
Ki-100
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))
MXY7 Ohka

Russian Planes:

Tupolev TB-3
IL-10

British Planes:

Beaufort
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X
Halifax MK.III
Gloster Meteor MK.III

German Planes:

HS.123
JU87-G1
HE-111
HE-162
HE-219
FW-200

Italian Planes:

G.55
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82


French Planes:

D.520
M.S.406


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).
Submarines
Depth Charges to counter Subs
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)
Large train depots
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)

World War 1 and Korea Arenas.

What about a search function prior to entering any arena. I know about the dot command to look for Squadron mates but something more "live" for searching anyone.

Some say "Nukes" but seriously, why? If HTC decides to introduce Nukes, then use them as the highest perk points and once dropped, the town/base destroyed is not able to be captured (you lose all perks). Once base recovers, only the side who owns the area can reuse it. I say no to Nukes.

Yes, I agree this is a Combat Flight Simulation (C.F.S.) but a large segment of the gamers enjoy the GV and CV portions of the game. When I mentioned more CV's, it would be cool to see large sea battles among CV groups with Cruiser and Battleships among the firepower. Imagine 16 and 18 inch guns raining on your parade. Then add in Subs into the battle who must avoid Depth Charges (manual or Automatic like Ack).



Now some of you will be "WTF?" or cap on my ideas. Remember, this is just a wish list and my ideas come from playing the game long enough to know what would make it more challenging.

[Motherland]

Why the heck would you want an Fw200?

ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)

BTW, the reason we don't have Swastika's on the tails of German aircraft is because the Swastika is illegal in Germany. And, without German players, Lusche wouldnt be able to give us any of his pretty charts!

[Saxman]

Yep. I disagree with the history white-washing too, but when you market to an international audience you're sorta stuck when it comes to other nations' laws.

[FrodeMk3]

Yep. I disagree with the history white-washing too, but when you market to an international audience you're sorta stuck when it comes to other nations' laws.

To add, I believe that more than a few games outside of AH are hamstrung by this as well. If you play the "Blitzkrieg" series of RTS games, They substitute a version of the old Imperial German Iron cross for the Nazi Swastika.

[aenigma]

re:Why the heck would you want an Fw200?

Variety which can bomb and transport troops. I think it is a good looking bird as well.

As for the Markings on aircraft. Thank you for bringing to light about international laws. In no way would I want to see our international gamers be banned over a symbol.

Thanks for the replies.

[Ack-Ack]

Why the heck would you want an Fw200?BTW, the reason we don't have Swastika's on the tails of German aircraft is because the Swastika is illegal in Germany. And, without German players, Lusche wouldnt be able to give us any of his pretty charts!

I wonder if it is still illegal to show blood in games sold in Germany.  I remember when Carmegeddon had to change the blood from red to green and make the people aliens instead of human because of German laws.

ack-ack

[Saxman]

I thought that was the British release?

[Gowan]

American planes:

PB2Y Coronado- Whats that?
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV-huh?
C54 Skymaster-?
C46 Commando-ok... never heard of that one...
SB2C Helldiver-Only if the bombload is better than any fighter that can lift off a carrier
P61 Black Widow-its a NIGHT FIGHTER, and last time i checked, THERE IS NO NIGHT
A26 Invader-hell, if it has A- in front of the name, it might be fun
B29 Superfortress-n00k1!!!!1!!one!11!!!qQ!!!


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden-?
G8n Renzan-??
Ki-100-???
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))-hell, i could use another tank buster
MXY7 Ohka-no baka bomb, the reason why kamikaze into stuff doesnt hurt them is because you could keep upping them, if this was in, i would want that if you used it, you couldnt fly for 24 hours

Russian Planes:

Tupolev TB-3
IL-10

British Planes:

Beaufort--Look at the halifax except the lancaster part
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X--I sorta want this one
Halifax MK.III-we need heavies from other countries first, would like in a couple years though, besides the Lancaster is already a lot like it
Gloster Meteor MK.III--NO, no more jet dweebs flying around (i sorta have a prop fetish)

German Planes:

HS.123--?
JU87-G1--if i see another thread with this in it im gonna kill the next squeeker i see
HE-111--WE NEED THIS TO BE THE NEXT PLANE OUT (hopefully in the next upcomming patch
HE-162--?
HE-219--?
FW-200--?

Italian Planes:

G.55-sure, why not
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82-?


French Planes:

D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day)
M.S.406-look up


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).--im up for it, but not soon though
Submarines--NO NO NO NO NO
Depth Charges to counter Subs--look up
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)THIS IS PLANES!!! i honestly dont know why tanks are here in the first place, besides, would a pilot have a mg in his cockpit? HELL NO
Large train depots--Sure, why not
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.--yay! more targets
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)--Cant, its illegal to have the swastika in germany, and we have a good amount of mates there

World War 1 and Korea Arenas.---- NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS MADNESS!!! THIS IS WWII!!! (or sparta, sometimes i cant really tell)

What about a search function prior to entering any arena. I know about the dot command to look for Squadron mates but something more "live" for searching anyone.

Some say "Nukes" but seriously, why? If HTC decides to introduce Nukes, then use them as the highest perk points and once dropped, the town/base destroyed is not able to be captured (you lose all perks). Once base recovers, only the side who owns the area can reuse it. I say no to Nukes.---good boy! you actually made an obvious statement!

Yes, I agree this is a Combat Flight Simulation (C.F.S.) but a large segment of the gamers enjoy the GV and CV portions of the game. When I mentioned more CV's, it would be cool to see large sea battles among CV groups with Cruiser and Battleships among the firepower. Imagine 16 and 18 inch guns raining on your parade. Then add in Subs into the battle who must avoid Depth Charges (manual or Automatic like Ack).---NO SUBS RAWR



Now some of you will be "WTF?" or cap on my ideas. Remember, this is just a wish list and my ideas come from playing the game long enough to know what would make it more challenging.---I know this is a wishlist, but im still gonna screw it over...

[Lusche]

I wonder if it is still illegal to show blood in games sold in Germany.  I remember when Carmegeddon had to change the blood from red to green and make the people aliens instead of human because of German laws.

ack-ack

I'm not perfectly up to date on exact details, but  years ago games like Rainbow Six had to be modified in some very rediculous ways - no blood on the floor, and the dead bodies disappeared after a few moments. At that time, the game would have not been totally banned, but would not have been allowed to be sold to minors. That would basically had killed all sales, as in that case you aren't allowed to advertise for it anymore.
Luckily we are still able to play Unreal, COD & Battlefield, despite there were some serious initiatives to ban ALL kinds of so called "killer games". But there is currently some legislation pending in that regards. But probably more a topic for Oclub than wishlist

[EskimoJoe]

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).
Submarines
Depth Charges to counter Subs

...I want real water before "subs" and "depth charges", both of which would turn this Air Combat Simulator into Naval Simulator, and none of us want ^that now do we?

[Saxman]

Gowan,

Think I can help you out, plus some of my own comments:

PB2Y Coronado- Whats that? Large flying boat by Consolidated. I'd rather see the PBY Catalina as she was much more widely used. Maybe the PBM Mars
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV-huh? Light bomber/attack plane built for the RAF by Martin
C54 Skymaster-? 4-engine cargo plane, conversion of the DC-4. Basically a larger Goon.
C46 Commando-ok... never heard of that one... Another US cargo plane, by Curtiss. 2x the cargo capacity of the C-47
SB2C Helldiver-Only if the bombload is better than any fighter that can lift off a carrier It's not, though later marks had 20mm cannon which of the Allied carrier-borne rides only the Seafire and F4U-1C have that armament, however she still carried no better ordinance load than the late-war American blue iron. Her bomb-load IS better than the SBD, but while the Dauntless was a sweet-handling aircraft, the Helldiver was a dog to fly. Has value in scenarios, however.
P61 Black Widow-its a NIGHT FIGHTER, and last time i checked, THERE IS NO NIGHT So? LOTS of firepower and good ordinance loadout. Besides, P-61s flew about as many daylight missions as night.
A26 Invader-hell, if it has A- in front of the name, it might be fun Add it and perk it
B29 Superfortress-n00k1!!!!1!!one!11!!!qQ!!! B-29 with NO nuke would be a nice addition, and definitely a worthwhile perk bomber


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden-? Late-war interceptor.
G8n Renzan-?? Prototype only. Never saw service
Ki-100-??? Think the Tony with a Radial engine
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))-hell, i could use another tank buster Only 22 production-models built. Not likely.
MXY7 Ohka-no baka bomb, the reason why kamikaze into stuff doesnt hurt them is because you could keep upping them, if this was in, i would want that if you used it, you couldnt fly for 24 hours Agreed. Ghey!

British Planes:

Beaufort--Look at the halifax except the lancaster part Actually, the Beaufort is an attack aircraft/torpedo plane. Very similar in size and design to the Beaufighter (in fact, the Beaufighter was develped FROM the Beaufort
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X--I sorta want this one
Halifax MK.III-we need heavies from other countries first, would like in a couple years though, besides the Lancaster is already a lot like it
Gloster Meteor MK.III--NO, no more jet dweebs flying around (i sorta have a prop fetish) Agreed. Actually, I want them to take the jets/rockets we ALREADY have OUT.

German Planes:

HS.123--? Biplane divebomber/attack bomber
JU87-G1--if i see another thread with this in it im gonna kill the next squeeker i see
HE-111--WE NEED THIS TO BE THE NEXT PLANE OUT (hopefully in the next upcomming patch
HE-162--? Small-production/prototype jet. Saw combat but in limited numbers. See my own comment for the Meteor
HE-219--? German night-fighter
FW-200--? German 4-engine bomber

Italian Planes:

G.55-sure, why not
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82-? Trimotor bomber and transport. Looks like it'd be an aerial equivalent of the new German GV we're getting: Options to carry troops or supplies, OR ordinance, but not both.


French Planes:

D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day) So? They saw service, and would be invaluable for scenarios for the Battle of France
M.S.406-look up You too


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).--im up for it, but not soon though Actually, I'd like to see bombardment groups separated from the CV. No fleet carrier, which is what we have, would have gotten anywhere NEAR gun range of an enemy warship, even a CRUISER, if they could help it. The CV Task Group duels we get in the Mains are just silly. Give the CV some destroyers, make he capable of launching aircraft ONLY, and take the cruiser out and create an all-guns TG type around THAT which has the capability of spawning LVTs.
Submarines--NO NO NO NO NO HTC already wants to do this, IIRC
Depth Charges to counter Subs--look up
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)THIS IS PLANES!!! i honestly dont know why tanks are here in the first place, besides, would a pilot have a mg in his cockpit? HELL NO Agreed, but variation for ground troops would be nice
Large train depots--Sure, why not
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.--yay! more targets We already HAVE "City" objects
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)--Cant, its illegal to have the swastika in germany, and we have a good amount of mates there This was discussed already

[RATTFINK]

Gowan,

Think I can help you out, plus some of my own comments:

PB2Y Coronado- Whats that? Large flying boat by Consolidated. I'd rather see the PBY Catalina as she was much more widely used. Maybe the PBM Mars
Martin Baltimore MK.I & MK. IV-huh? Light bomber/attack plane built for the RAF by Martin
C54 Skymaster-? 4-engine cargo plane, conversion of the DC-4. Basically a larger Goon.
C46 Commando-ok... never heard of that one... Another US cargo plane, by Curtiss. 2x the cargo capacity of the C-47
SB2C Helldiver-Only if the bombload is better than any fighter that can lift off a carrier It's not, though later marks had 20mm cannon which of the Allied carrier-borne rides only the Seafire and F4U-1C have that armament, however she still carried no better ordinance load than the late-war American blue iron. Her bomb-load IS better than the SBD, but while the Dauntless was a sweet-handling aircraft, the Helldiver was a dog to fly. Has value in scenarios, however.
P61 Black Widow-its a NIGHT FIGHTER, and last time i checked, THERE IS NO NIGHT So? LOTS of firepower and good ordinance loadout. Besides, P-61s flew about as many daylight missions as night.
A26 Invader-hell, if it has A- in front of the name, it might be fun Add it and perk it
B29 Superfortress-n00k1!!!!1!!one!11!!!qQ!!! B-29 with NO nuke would be a nice addition, and definitely a worthwhile perk bomber


Japanese planes:

J2M Raiden-? Late-war interceptor.
G8n Renzan-?? Prototype only. Never saw service
Ki-100-??? Think the Tony with a Radial engine
Ki-109 (a remodeled Ki-67 to a heavy Fighter with a 75mm Canon (15 Projectiles))-hell, i could use another tank buster Only 22 production-models built. Not likely.
MXY7 Ohka-no baka bomb, the reason why kamikaze into stuff doesnt hurt them is because you could keep upping them, if this was in, i would want that if you used it, you couldnt fly for 24 hours Agreed. Ghey!

British Planes:

Beaufort--Look at the halifax except the lancaster part Actually, the Beaufort is an attack aircraft/torpedo plane. Very similar in size and design to the Beaufighter (in fact, the Beaufighter was develped FROM the Beaufort
Beaufighter MK.IF & MK.X--I sorta want this one
Halifax MK.III-we need heavies from other countries first, would like in a couple years though, besides the Lancaster is already a lot like it
Gloster Meteor MK.III--NO, no more jet dweebs flying around (i sorta have a prop fetish) Agreed. Actually, I want them to take the jets/rockets we ALREADY have OUT.

German Planes:

HS.123--? Biplane divebomber/attack bomber
JU87-G1--if i see another thread with this in it im gonna kill the next squeeker i see
HE-111--WE NEED THIS TO BE THE NEXT PLANE OUT (hopefully in the next upcomming patch
HE-162--? Small-production/prototype jet. Saw combat but in limited numbers. See my own comment for the Meteor
HE-219--? German night-fighter
FW-200--? German 4-engine bomber

Italian Planes:

G.55-sure, why not
SIAI Marchetti S.M. 82-? Trimotor bomber and transport. Looks like it'd be an aerial equivalent of the new German GV we're getting: Options to carry troops or supplies, OR ordinance, but not both.


French Planes:

D.520-NO FRANCE!!! THEY DID LESS THAN EITHER AUSSIE OR CANADA (canada was in D-day) So? They saw service, and would be invaluable for scenarios for the Battle of France
M.S.406-look up You too


Game Play:

More CV fleets (all Nations) that include Battleships (All Nations).--im up for it, but not soon though Actually, I'd like to see bombardment groups separated from the CV. No fleet carrier, which is what we have, would have gotten anywhere NEAR gun range of an enemy warship, even a CRUISER, if they could help it. The CV Task Group duels we get in the Mains are just silly. Give the CV some destroyers, make he capable of launching aircraft ONLY, and take the cruiser out and create an all-guns TG type around THAT which has the capability of spawning LVTs.
Submarines--NO NO NO NO NO HTC already wants to do this, IIRC
Depth Charges to counter Subs--look up
Barrage Balloons
The ability to carry a rifle or Thompson MG as a soldier (Chute over enemy territory)THIS IS PLANES!!! i honestly dont know why tanks are here in the first place, besides, would a pilot have a mg in his cockpit? HELL NO Agreed, but variation for ground troops would be nice
Large train depots--Sure, why not
Larger "towns" that would be considered Cities near HQ's, Flak bases, etc.--yay! more targets We already HAVE "City" objects
ALL markings on ALL Planes from ALL Nations. (If You get offended, then why are you playing?)--Cant, its illegal to have the swastika in germany, and we have a good amount of mates there This was discussed already

^ ^ ^ What SaX said ^ ^ ^
                        

Also, the Brewster would be nice.

[Gowan]

thx alot saxman ^_^

[Motherland]

The thing I find ironic about this list is that you have 2 transports from not only the side that already has a transport, but the country that that transport belongs to- and on your list, there is no Ju52/3M, which was not only the German equivelent to the C47, but the German equivelent to the DC3 itself, in the civilian role.

The thing that irks me most about the AH planeset is the lack of Russian aircraft. The VVS was one of the largest and most technologically advanced airforces of WWII-and one of the most under-represented in AH. At the very least, we need the Yak series to be fleshed out with a number of versions similar to what we have with the 109 and Spitfire. The Yakovlev 1/7/9/3 series were the most produced fighters ever, with over 35,000 aircraft made-only beat out by the Il-2 for the most prolific overall aircraft-and this crowning acheivement of Soviet industry is represented by two latewar aircraft. That, IMO, is one of the silliest things about our current planeset.

[FrodeMk3]

 The Blenheim's played a large part in RAF stike roles in '39-'42, serving in france, the BoB, and in the MTO.

I was suprised the Blenheim wasn't on those lists.