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Offline kilz

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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2008, 03:13:42 AM »
Intel® Core™2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB)
NVIDIA 8800 Ultra
320GB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 160GB WD Raptor SATA 1.5Gb/s 10,000 RPM HDDs
750 Watt power supply
3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer (D) Sound Card

ok this is my new system it runs great however i think i am missing a setting some where. when i run the game i run low Frame Rates like 20-40 and i get discoed like every hour. any help would be nice thanks in advance.
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2008, 06:50:02 AM »
Intel® Core™2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB)
NVIDIA 8800 Ultra
320GB Performance RAID 0 (2 x 160GB WD Raptor SATA 1.5Gb/s 10,000 RPM HDDs
750 Watt power supply
3GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer (D) Sound Card

ok this is my new system it runs great however i think i am missing a setting some where. when i run the game i run low Frame Rates like 20-40 and i get discoed like every hour. any help would be nice thanks in advance.


Your system should run the fps 100% pegged to whatever refresh you use in your monitor. If you get that low values, your computer is broken somehow. You could have a bad heatsink installation (overheating cpu throttles down) or software trouble (bad antivirus etc.)

You didn't mention which operating system you run?
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2008, 11:48:00 AM »
how do i set my monitor refresh i never did that
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2008, 01:49:12 PM »
If you're using winXP, try this:

right click anywhere on your desktop, then  --> properties --> settings tab --> advanced button --> Monitor tab. :)

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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2008, 02:04:27 PM »
thanks caz
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2008, 02:05:53 PM »
now whats going to be a good refresh rate  got to many to chose from?
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2008, 02:18:46 PM »
now whats going to be a good refresh rate  got to many to chose from?

If you run CRT (old tube monitor) then you should set the refresh as high as the monitor allows you. Minimum recommended is 85hz. This is because the conventional tube tech flashes and anything below 72hz will give you serious eyestrain and potential headaches. Be aware though that older/cheaper tube monitors can not handle higher resolutions in combination to high refresh rates.

With LCD monitors it's different - they run natively at 60hz but that's not a problem because LCD does not flicker like the tube. You should keep the refresh at 60. I stress however that you should only do this with LCD - tube monitor should be set to 85 or higher if possible.

You should always use only the recommended refresh rates for your monitor - too high refresh can damage your monitor permanently.
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2008, 03:22:12 PM »
ok all i know is its a samsung and its digital so i will have to take a look when i get home thanks for the help
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2008, 06:57:45 PM »
Kilz - the older CRT monitors are typically standard aspect ratio (square, not widescreen), and they tend to be a lot thicker that LCDs.

Just check your monitor's model number with the Samsung website and they should be able to tell ya everything you need to know.  The model number should be written somewhere on your monitor's exterior.

Also - if you check the "hide modes that this monitor cannot display" checkbox it should limit your choices to the refresh rates that your monitor can handle at your chosen resolution, but you may still want to confirm those choices with Samsung.  Never hurts to be cautious, and MrRipley is right - if it's a CRT and you overdo it, you'll wish ya handn't.

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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2008, 07:25:08 PM »
and MrRipley is right - if it's a CRT and you overdo it, you'll wish ya handn't.

ahhhh just gives me a reason to buy the 30" LCD that i been wanting  :D
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2008, 10:23:11 PM »
ok i have my refresh rate set never knew my monitor was an LCD monitor. it said to set it at 60. this however did not fix the poor frame rates and disco problem.

Roy i tried 512 and 256 texture size and that did nothing.

does anyone think my rig could posibly be running slow not to its fulliest? is there a way to check that??
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2008, 11:55:37 PM »
How do you get 3 Gb Ram on 4 chips?  Is it really 4 Gb or is it 3 chips or is Windows only recognizing 3 of 4 Gb?  If it's 3 Gb on 3 chips it's running in single channel mode although I wouldn't expect that alone would slow that system down as much as what you're seeing.

Does your motherboard have on-board sound?  If so did you disable it before you installed the sound card?  That could cause a big enough conflict to slow you down.  If it had onboard sound which hasen't been disabled check with the board manufacturer (or in the documentation that came with it) to see how to enter set-up (CMOS) to disable the onboard sound in the BIOS.
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2008, 12:14:13 AM »
Memory=3070 MB RAM
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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2008, 04:44:12 AM »
Yeah, single channel is painful to handle.  In my experience it's less that half the performance you get from a completely dual channel setup.  If I had to guess on Kilz's setup, my bet is on 2 X 1 GB sticks and 2 X 512 MB sticks = 3072 MB (even though Windows is only listing it as 3070).

Bald makes a very good point Kilz - you may want to physically verify how many sticks you have in your box before you spend too much time on anything else.  It's an easy first step (just pop the case cover off & look inside), and if that's it, it's an easy fix, too.

To be honest, I can think of all kinds of reasons your rig might be hamstrung.  If you really want to tackle this issue thoroughly it's going to probably take some real time to get to the bottom of it.  A disco vs. a frame rate issue means some 'one thing' could be mucking everything up, or you may have two seperate issues combining to test your sanity.  I came to this convo late, so I may not have the entire picture here, but if you just put this machine together you may want to consider benchmarking the various subsystems to get a clearer picture of what's going on.

If the ram and the onboard sound thing doesn't solve your problems Kilz, I might make the following 'next step' suggestions:

First - for the frame rate issue, test other games on your machine.  Try to emulate the settings you use in AH2 as closely as possible with other games and see how your rig fares -- do their frame rates also drop precipitously, or is it only in AH2 that you see this behavior?  Have you checked to be certain that you're running the latest video drivers?  Did you hook up the auxilliary power connector on your video card (probably, or you'd know it by now).  What about setting AH2's video settings as low as possible?  Does the poor frame rate issue disappear, or is it the same?

Second - the disco issue is tough.  Do you have another machine in your house that you can run AH2 on (even if only badly)?  If you do, you might try connecting it to the end of the Cat5 cable you're using on your new rig and playing for a bit to see if you get the same frequency of discos.  If so, it may not be your machine at all.  It could be your router, cable/DSL modem, or overall Internet service.  You could benchmark data transfers from one machine to another to verify your throughput is where it should be.  Or you could start by eyeing your latency in AH2 as you play.  You might even drag your machine to a friend's house if you can't test another machine on your Internet connection.  If you use the same machine at a friend's place and the discos disappear - that's a pointer to the possibility that your machine is ok, and the discos are again related to your service/modem/router/cabling. 

Or you could check for updated drivers for your motherboard and your network interface card (if you're using a motherboard that has multiple built-in NICs, you could try connecting your cat5 cable to the other NIC and seeing how that goes - just be sure that the other port is enabled in both your system BIOS and in Windows).

I'm sorry to see that you're having issues like this Kilz.  In my experience these types of issues can be as troublesome and insidious as the dreaded blue screen'o death.  Good luck to you!  :salute

-Caz1

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Re: hows this for a computer
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2008, 09:41:32 AM »
Caz brings up a good point.  You could have 4 memory chips in the configuration he mentioned (2x1Gb/2x512mb).   In that configuration you are also going to run in single channel mode.  You need matched memory sticks installed in pairs to remain in dual channel mode.  If that's the configuration you're running simply pull the 512 chips and you'll probably see a performance increase.
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