ADHD question.

[Estel]

This question is based on a question posted by texasmom.

Am I right, that in USA, ADHD (Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder) is placed in one line with Downs syndrome and Autism? And because of this, can make problems to people with this diagnosys?

I'm asking because it was really strange to me to read, that Asperger's syndrome and Tourettes tic syndrome can cause so much problems with school.

Here, in Russia, Asperger is only a minor desocialisation syndrome wich can not be a problem nor in school, nor in adult life. Tourettes tic is not a problem too. And sure, both diagnoses can not be a reason to get the problems with school. They are not in the list of mental diagnoses wich can be a reason of Recognition of Incapacity.

Don't you think, that this shows a vivid example of "overdiagnosing"? Looks like you'r trying to find a problem in an empty place.

[SD67]

ADHD is probably the most misdiagnosed condition in the late 20th Century.
It is a potentially debilitating affliction that prevents it's sufferers from maintaining cohesive relationships in a persons professional and personal lives from the time they begin to socialise and in their early education through in some instances to adulthood.
Unfortunately it's becoming the first line of defence for poor parenting and too many physicians are all too willing to diagnose it.
There was an excellent thread on adult ADHD here a little while ago.

[Eagler]

IMO ADHD is bs 90% of the time ... parents wanting to make parenting alittle simpler by medicating their children instead of raising them

[DiabloTX]

Agreed.

[Gowan]

This question is based on a question posted by texasmom. Am I right, that in USA, ADHD (Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder) is placed in one line with Downs syndrome and Autism? And because of this, can make problems to people with this diagnosys?

actually, the Austim Spectrum goes from ADD/ADHD to Asperger's Syndrome (which i actually have, and it is NOT a bs diagnosed disorder like ADD/ADHD) to Pervasive Asperger's (which is a bit more severe than Normal Asperger's and less than full blown autism), and then there is autism.


Asperger's Syndrome is not like ADD/ADHD, and actually has far less confirmed diagnoses compared to Autism. I myself suffer from Asperger's, and my cousin has Pervasive Asperger's. For me, it is very socially debilitating, hell, proof enough is the fact that i wasn't able to get into ANY kind of relationship until almost 2 months ago. My almost anyone close to me knows that i am a competely different person without medications, to the point where that if i my prescription runs out, and i cant get another one by the time i run out, me and my mom consider me just staying home from school.

It is a potentially debilitating affliction that prevents it's sufferers from maintaining cohesive relationships in a persons professional and personal lives from the time they begin to socialise and in their early education through in some instances to adulthood.

this is quite true, due to the fact that i have ruined MANY friendships because of me accidentally not taking my meds for one day, and then the person basing their impression of me due to that one day.



i just hope that people don't just group autism, pervasive, and asperger's in the same bucket as ADD/ADHD and name those as bull as well. these are serious, and i myself am pissed off at the fact that physisians would rather shove pills down a childs neck to make an extra buck, rather than slap the parents and tell them to do a better job.

I hope this has been somewhat helpful in informing people about this sort of thing. i'm putting myself out on a line, revealing very private information that most people i know dont know of, in hopes that no one will flame me about this

[JB88]

agreed.  it is often misdiagnosed.

but i have it.

have struggled and suffered.

i know what it is.

[Estel]

Gowan, thanks for explaining.

This time, here in Russia it's looks like a new fashion, to give such diagnoses like ADHD to many children. Few days ago I had a talk to school director. She said that I should go with my son to region psychologist, because of she (director) think that he have "big problems with attention and concentrating. And I think it's ADHD." Sure, I told her where to go... And sure I will not go to psychologist or any other. But for me it's very strange, to have such simplified approach to the question.

[Chairboy]

Consequences of ADHD diagnoses that many don't know about:

1. Can't get a pilots license, probably ever.  The 'exception process' is expensive and difficult and requires psychological evaluations and more.
2. May soon be prevented from purchasing any firearms.  New legislation is working its way through the system that classifies ADHD as a psychological disorder of the sort that would place ADHD sufferers next to felons, dishonorably discharged veterans, and so on.
3. Probably can't get a CDL for the same reasons as #1.

There are more, these are just a few I've found recently.

Avoid the diagnosis at any cost, make absolutely CERTAIN (multiple opinions from doctors).   Don't let a lazy guidance counselor ruin your child's life.

[Pooh21]

See Rule #7

[lasersailor184]

Consequences of ADHD diagnoses that many don't know about:

1. Can't get a pilots license, probably ever.  The 'exception process' is expensive and difficult and requires psychological evaluations and more.
2. May soon be prevented from purchasing any firearms.  New legislation is working its way through the system that classifies ADHD as a psychological disorder of the sort that would place ADHD sufferers next to felons, dishonorably discharged veterans, and so on.
3. Probably can't get a CDL for the same reasons as #1.

There are more, these are just a few I've found recently.

Avoid the diagnosis at any cost, make absolutely CERTAIN (multiple opinions from doctors).   Don't let a lazy guidance counselor ruin your child's life.

Tough to enlist in the US ARMY.  Not because it is seen as a psychological disorder, but because of the medicines prescribed.

[Simaril]

Lots of kids have "The Other Kind of ADD -- Absent Discipline Disorder."

But, ADD can be a real disorder. Really overdiagnosed because too many docs (and families) think "if you check off enough of the boxes, you have the problem and get the med." Important to remember that distractability is a spectrum, and most people have some degree of it. There's no cutoff...not like you're completely like every one else, but if you add one more "point" of distractability you suddenly have a major problem. Most people do best by learning coping skills to get around the fact that they are easier to distract, harder to stay on task, than most others. Relying on pills is a mistake if that's all you're doing.

[Gowan]

See Rule #7

WHAT THE boink IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!

guess what buddy, you have no right to talk about my condition like that, hell wouldn't you like to live through my childhood!

hey skuzzy, i dont care if this post gets skuzzinated, but if it does, take this bastage down with me please

[NUKE]

WHAT THE boink IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!

guess what buddy, you have no right to talk about my condition like that, hell wouldn't you like to live through my childhood!

hey skuzzy, i dont care if this post gets skuzzinated, but if it does, take this bastage down with me please

I thought you were all for free speech?

I don't think it was a personal attack against you.

[Gowan]

1. Can't get a pilots license, probably ever.  The 'exception process' is expensive and difficult and requires psychological evaluations and more.

Well this just sucks... I've been wanting to have a career as a pilot for a long time now, and this news is just delightful for me to hear. [/sarcasm]

well, i was just talking to my parents about this after reading the post, and most likely i might try getting of my medications for good this summer

nuke, sorry, but as you can somewhat tell i am prone to exploding at things if they offend me enough. also, i think it is an attack on me saying my parents are lazy and just want to shove pills down my throught so i'll shut up, and also call my condition "Assburgers".  (and please nobody laugh at this horribly immature try at humor)

oh and pooh, if asperger's is the new ADHD, how come it has less diagnoses than autism? explain in a nice neat cute little letter please  

[NUKE]

Well this just sucks... I've been wanting to have a career as a pilot for a long time now, and this news is just delightful for me to hear. [/sarcasm]

well, i was just talking to my parents about this after reading the post, and most likely i might try getting of my medications for good this summer

nuke, sorry, but as you can somewhat tell i am prone to exploding at things they offend me. also, i think it is an attack on me saying my parents are lazy and just want to shove pills down my throught so i'll shut up, and also call my condition "Assburgers".  (and please nobody laugh at this horribly immature try at humor)

oh and pooh, if asperger's is the new ADHD, how come it has less diagnoses than autism? please explain in a nice neat cute little letter please 

It's okay Gowan. We all have our issues, and I'm no one to be pointing fingers at anyone else for "exploding" at things that offend them.

I'm trying to be a better person even though I know that I am an azz. Still, I am just like anyone here in most respects.