Weather Channel Founder: Sue Al Gore for Fraud

[CptTrips]

This chick has obviously not heard about the overwelming scientific concensus.  Doesn't she know that Al Gore has already declared all debate to be over!

Perhaps we should make some vague threats about removing her credientials for blaspheming the new Religion?

She is a heritic, possible a witch.  She hates the Earth, and more than likely is in legue with Big Oil.

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Wab

[Angus]

Lazs:
"angus.. just the man made part.   Also.. I think that we are due for a cooling and most real data shows that.  There has been a cooling.   despite one quote from moray."

Okay, so has it been cooling or not, for you answer the question both ways!
For my part, the CO2 warming everything up is a slippery thing. Human impact as a whole has so many other huge things.
As for the cooling, I haven't seen anything proper to vote for it, and the with the polar caps in very fast retreat, you can debate and post stuff as you like, - it still keeps going on.
Kind of Galileo when the church forced him to state that the earth was the center of the solar-system, with the sun spinning around it and not vice-versa, - the earth kept on orbiting the sun that year.
So, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Anyway-your own personal heliocentrism?

No matter ho much you stare at the melting cube in yer whiskey and whisper "Thou areth frezing", - well it isn't.

[Kaw1000]

I love it...The Weather Channel is doing the right thing...Al Gore has made millions on a speculation!
 Al Gore should give back the millions he has made on his false claims!

[Angus]

Which ones were false?

[Kaw1000]

Ummmm.... all of them! Of course we should believe him the is a politcian!

[Angus]

Did he prove wrong in stating that the globe is warming?

[Kaw1000]

Al Gore proved nothing....did he go to Anartica and take readings??Is he a meteoroligist?Is he a scientist?No he is a spokesman...he only talks about things other people tell him.....Al Gore is like Jessie jackson and all the other shmucks out there making millions...fleecing the American public.

[indy007]

Pretty much the case.
The sea Ice will not raise SL, but all land based Ice will, and you'd be baffled to see what just the cap of Greenland can do.
Anyway, for the U.S.A., from where I heard ever so often "who cares" and "WTF with polar bears, LOL", finally I see this:
"If the ice melts most of the US will have very serious water shortages."+

Which is...true, as with many more areas of course...

You know theres massive plants that do the exact same thing as this little guy right? Australia is turning to the plants to solve their water problems. Human ingenuity ftw.

[Angus]

In Dubai they use filters. Only seawater there.
The modern filters, as well as the older are already much more energy efficient than distilling pure water from seawater.
Now, the problem persists though, for much of the human population does not live close to the sea...
As well as that, I'd love to see the bunch of you using that thing for every day in your life to have water, for it's not just for drinking you know....

[lazs2]

angus..I guess I can't answer your question because I don't understand exactly what you are asking.

Does the climate of the earth heat and cool from time to time?   I say yes.

has the planet heated for most of the last century somewhat?  I say yes

did man have any significant effect on that in the form of man made co2?  I say no.

Has the planet been cooling since 1998?   I say yes.

Has it been cooling since 2002?  I say yes.

Is man making it significantly cooler?  I say no.

Is the sun the major player?   I say yes.

lazs

[Angus]

So we disagree....
Here:
"Has the planet been cooling since 1998?   I say yes.

Has it been cooling since 2002?  I say yes."

I have not seen anything to back this up any better than the earth being flat. The records of all time heat being 205 and 2007, as well as ocean temps steadily rising.

As for the rest,,,,so-so. I think the CO2 and carbon levelling etc etc is oversimplifying things.

[lazs2]

sorry angus.. I can't find any charts that show 2005 and 2007 being hotter than 1998 or...  1935 for that matter.

Every chart I see shows a downward trend from 1998. 

lazs

[Angus]

Did you read Morays stuff? You only have to scroll up this thread....

[lazs2]

well...  I did read his stuff..  I also looked at some charts that look a lot like his...

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhshgl.gif

except... different.

The margin of error is greater at +/- 2 degrees than the range  of the rise in the charts.

lazs

[Angus]

So why is the ocean temp climbing as well as the ice melting?
You see, the air itself is trickier to measure...