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[lazs2]

yep moray.. I agree.. it is the "accumulation" of weather events.. it is record cold everywhere.   The global climate is starting to cool.   

lazs

[MORAY37]

yep moray.. I agree.. it is the "accumulation" of weather events.. it is record cold everywhere.   The global climate is starting to cool.   

lazs

NASA apparently doesn't think so, save for lower latitudes.  The NEWEST GISS numbers.  (again lazs... the DATA goes AFTER 2000, to include year 2007,  FYI)

[Angus]

You can repeat yourself at will Lazs, but from experience I have no reason to belive you on this....
As well as from the judgement of my senses

[lazs2]

of course angus... if you "feel" I am wrong and it is warmer in your back yard then it must be so.

I think we may find that the ocean heating, or most of it is geothermal..  if it were greenhouse gas then the troposphere would be hotter.

lazs

[AKIron]

of course angus... if you "feel" I am wrong and it is warmer in your back yard then it must be so.

I think we may find that the ocean heating, or most of it is geothermal..  if it were greenhouse gas then the troposphere would be hotter.

lazs

The oceans are probably mad at us for killing whales and dolphins.

[Angus]

I EAT WHALES 

Anyway, my senses, include my eyes as well as my sense for temperature, and I can see more than one glacier through the windows. Been watching for years...

Included in my conclusion are my experiences from farming on an "edge" area for a good deal of years, my recent experience from really arctic ocean areas, my corresponding with farmers and seamen alike, my agricultural base education (agriculture involves more than hauling straw, such as metreology, biology etc etc), and, importantly, experiences from reading....a lot.

In short, trying to tell me that it's been cooling for the last years is like trying to tell me that Josef Göbbels was a 7 ft blond basketball player

And reading Moray's data makes rather much sense....

[angelsandair]

Also I wanted to add to this.. one thing is very certain. If the ice keeps melting we will have very serious problems here in the US as well as the rest of the world.

1) Much of the world's lower areas "will" be under water, that is a definite fact.

2) If the ice melts most of the US will have very serious water shortages.

Put it to you this way, where I live, it "will" be under water, yet where do you move? If the ice melts it won't be safe to live in the central US because there will be no water. So we have some drastic things that will effect this country and the world yet people argue about a catch phrase. The fact is as Camouflage posted the Ice "is" melting, it's clear as day in satellite photos.. Yea can't really argue with it.

Can we stop it or even slow it? I dunno but one thing is certain New York, Florida and all the other places being underwater will be pretty bad for the economy. Much less having no water for crops in the mid west. Lets just hope all that doesn't happen in our life times, but it is certain it will happen. So what are we doing to prepare for it? Not much...

Uhhh dude, you know this just happens naturally right? The earth warms and cools all the time. It is not in any way earth caused, Mt St Helens's eruption cloud of ash was had more pollutants than anything humans have ever put up in the atmosphere, we should be more worried about 1 volcano than our own stupid ways. Only way I vouch for the enviroment is the hunting and how people want to take that away from us.  Damn hippies....... 

[Angus]

Firstly, you cannot do anything about volcanoes going off.
Secondly, the pollutant claim there....would you support that with data?
Thirdly, St. Helens is not the record breaker. The record breakers actualy started off with a lot of a cooling effect BTW....

[Angus]

Oh, GW is not happening....
Found linkie here about things not happening.
7th minute or so sets it off, but the whole thing is funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4GfDx_W-PE&NR=1