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Offline RATTFINK

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Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« on: March 15, 2008, 02:27:42 AM »
Battle 360 is getting better and better w/ every show.   :rock


What did you think of the ME-163.  The plane that destroyed both man and plane in training more then any other plane.
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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2008, 02:32:37 AM »
no but i love that show

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2008, 03:44:15 AM »
I saw it tonight. I know the 163, although had limited action but the plane itself in reality was quite impressive.

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2008, 04:21:16 AM »
What did you think of the ME-163.  The plane that destroyed both man and plane in training more then any other plane.
Do you have any data to back that statement up?

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2008, 09:20:57 AM »
Do you have any data to back that statement up?

Watch the show bro.! It's all there.
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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2008, 09:57:40 AM »
Watch the show bro.! It's all there.

Since when is a TV show a respectable reference source? :rolleyes:

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2008, 10:09:05 AM »
Since when is a TV show a respectable reference source? :rolleyes:

since its on the History Channel!                                                                   :uhoh

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2008, 10:44:00 AM »
since its on the History Channel!                                                                   :uhoh

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2008, 05:26:40 PM »
Battle 360 is getting better and better w/ every show.   :rock


What did you think of the ME-163.  The plane that destroyed both man and plane in training more then any other plane.

Yes, it's an addictive show.  I had to tear my arms off of the chair to play AH.

It's hilarious:  We didn't need to kill the Nazi's, they did it for us.
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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2008, 07:07:00 PM »
One of my friends states that she saw a Spitfire/Seafire mentioned and shown in one of the Dogfigth episodes.

I told her she'd probably mistaken it for a far-off P-47. I hope there is an episode like that... and hopefully we're done with the P-51 episodes... they're everywhere.

But it's hard to trust anything said in that show. One person bothered to say the the P-47 had the most firepower of any WWII fighter (Axis included). Kinda made me want to not listen to the 'historians' in the show.
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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2008, 09:05:33 PM »
One of my friends states that she saw a Spitfire/Seafire mentioned and shown in one of the Dogfigth episodes.

I told her she'd probably mistaken it for a far-off P-47. I hope there is an episode like that... and hopefully we're done with the P-51 episodes... they're everywhere.

But it's hard to trust anything said in that show. One person bothered to say the the P-47 had the most firepower of any WWII fighter (Axis included). Kinda made me want to not listen to the 'historians' in the show.

They were WWII vets,  they had their own biased opinion,  justifiably so.  I don't trust any of the non-vets in that show, especially that jarhead, squarejaw, knuckle-dragging lugnut who talks like he actually fought in the war.  He's a patriot and all, but his voice is just so annoying...
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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2008, 04:12:38 AM »
no kidding I dont like him either. They should just give that Nussbaum guy more caffiene and have him narrate every show.

My 2 favorite quotes from the history channel

as a P-47 goes in to strafe a convoy, tracers start bouncing around and the military guy says "see we start to see return fire from aa at this point" :rofl

and the second is rearward cam of a cluster bomb drop in vietnam. there are numerous puffs of dust and splashes in a rice patty, followed by booms! at the exact spot. The guy is all "there is clearly an ammunition dump or something located here as we are now getting secondary explosions" :rofl
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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2008, 05:31:02 AM »
Both are very captivating shows to say the least.

One peeve I must admit to is the lack of kudos for the support guys.

My grandfather lives with my wife and I (I can't imagine the thought of a retirement home).  He served in the US Navy during WWII.  He is 87 and still is in fairly good shape for some of the things he went through.  He was on the tanker (AO-42) USS Monongahela.  He was at almost every major battle in the pacific.  As we sat and watched the latest episode of 360, we both wondered where the kudos were for the support guys.  I mean, it's not a football game where the ball boy doesn't get his kudos even though everyone helps the team to win, it's a show about our part in the pacific theater. 

Where did these mighty ships get their supplies from?  Who gave them the food/ammo/fuel to continue the fight?  As I sat here with him, he described to me, in detail, just about every hit the Enterprise was about to take before they showed it.  He named the ships that were lost in the particular battle that this episode was showing, before the show depicted them being sunk.  He also named names of sailors that he knew on these ships, as well as admitting to recognizing some of the featured sailors in the show by face or name.

Without making a novel of this, I just wanted to say that I enjoy the show, but if it is trying to reproduce an accurate reconstruction of events, it should probably not forget some of the other details.  I know that like football games, the "jocks" are going to get the most press.  I wish that some of the support guys would, also.  My grandfathers ship followed the Enterprise around for most of its tour in the pacific.  These auxiliary ships were, in fact, ordered to try to engage as little as possible for the most part, but is wasn't always possible.  Most of them were not speedboats to say the least.  They also weren't quite as fully armed as some of the big boys.  They did have some teeth, but barely.  A lot of the the time when the SH%* hit the fan, these guys were in harms way as much as the "battle" ships were: replenishing ordinance, fuel, etc that they were consuming.  They couldn't always get "out of the way" either before things got ugly.  As my Grandfather puts it, "Hell, we weren't fast enough to get out of our OWN way sometimes", especially when carrying a full load of fuel. 

I just wanted to get that out.  The support guys didn't always get to watch from the sidelines as we get to on TV.   In fact, a lot of the times they were underway from battle to battle without any escort except from other meagerly armed auxiliary and support ships.  Just remember as I quote my Grandfather again "We didn't get to choose what ship we got assigned to, but we all did our part and took our lumps just the same."

Otherwise, it's still a good show.

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 05:47:25 AM »
A very big +1 VonMessa. :aok

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Re: Did anyone watch Battle 360 & Dogfights 3-14-08?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2008, 01:20:28 PM »

But it's hard to trust anything said in that show. One person bothered to say the the P-47 had the most firepower of any WWII fighter (Axis included). Kinda made me want to not listen to the 'historians' in the show.


My favorite was the one that said the P-51 was armed with six 50mm machine guns!