German Panther

[Motherland]

The only difference I see between the graphics in RO and the new GV models in Aces High are larger .bmps, the 3d models are almost the same. That and ground textures & environments that are optimised for ground combat. But I have got a little secret for you... this game is meant for aerial combat.

[Sweet2th]

The only difference I see between the graphics in RO and the new GV models in Aces High are larger .bmps, the 3d models are almost the same. That and ground textures & environments that are optimised for ground combat. But I have got a little secret for you... this game is meant for aerial combat.

The intesity of RO is way higher than you'll ever find in AH.Being able to hide in a building while a iS2 drives past, then popping out of that building to shoot the tank with a panzerfaust is really really fun.Setting up the MG-42 in a position and holding off the Russian's while your buddy feeds you more ammo is a total thrill for a video game.Fighting for the fountain in downtown Berlin April 5th 1945 is the best fun you will find anywhere online.

The best thing of all

It will only cost you twenty dollar's, one time.

 

For plane on plane combat, AH is about the best your gonna find.

[Bronk]

The best thing of all

It will only cost you twenty dollar's, one time.

But it requires Steam, so you can keep it.

[DPQ5]

Why...... How is the game anyway. Thought about checking it out.

its a ok game, yiu should check it out



*sighs and says what have i started*

[Motherland]

The intesity of RO is way higher than you'll ever find in AH.Being able to hide in a building while a iS2 drives past, then popping out of that building to shoot the tank with a panzerfaust is really really fun.Setting up the MG-42 in a position and holding off the Russian's while your buddy feeds you more ammo is a total thrill for a video game.Fighting for the fountain in downtown Berlin April 5th 1945 is the best fun you will find anywhere online.

The best thing of all

It will only cost you twenty dollar's, one time.

 

For plane on plane combat, AH is about the best your gonna find.

I can't play first person shooters anymore. I find them extremely boring. I play video games to get as close as I actually can to doing something that I can't actually do. I get my combat pilots fix through Aces High, and my infantry fix through airsoft, which is a lot more fun than an FPS and much more realistic. If there were way that I could get my pilots fix without using a computer I would. Now, the tank simulation aspect of RO I do find fairly interesting, but I'd rather just use the neutered version we have here than buy another game and learn all over again.

[moot]

n/t

[AquaShrimp]

The average tank to tank engagement distance on the Western front was less than 500 meters.

Source: Dirty Little Secrets of World War II (citing a post-war study).

[Jag34]

With APCR (HVAP shot) rounds the US 76mm M1 was effective against the Panther at 900 yards, but not much beyond 1000 yards.

This is not true. This is from the book "M4 Sherman, Combat and Development History of the Sherman Tank and All Sherman Variants" " Sgt. Ross Figueroa of the 2nd AD stated in a report: This incident happened on March 2nd 1945, When I gave my gunner the order to fire at an enemy Mark V tank at the range of 1600 yards with first round which was APC and it bounced off. My second round was a HVAP which destroyed the Mark V and set it on fire." Figueroa went on in his report to describe another combat acton in Germany. "While on the right of the village of Fischein, Germany, I was placed in a firing position by the platoon leader. In my position I had a field of fire extending to a distance of 2000 yards, covering several roads. While in this position, I spotted a Mark V Panther moving across my front. For my first shot I used an APC, establishing my range, which was 1600 yards. The next round was an HVAP. It hit the tank, immediately setting it on fire. Later I had an opportunity to inspect the tank and upon seeing the size of the hole made by the projectile, I am confident in the shell and would like to have more of the ammunition. With such ammunition I wouldn't be afraid to shoot at any of the enemy vehicles, especially at ranges where our normal ammunition now ricochets off of the enemy armor."

Jag34

[E25280]

Only problem with that, jag34, is that it doesn't say where he hit the Panther.  May have been a side shot (as in "moving across my front")?  It would be nice to have put that little tidbit in his story to be sure.

[Pongo]

Very late war German tanks had much inferior quality steel to the ones made in mid 44. It was much more brittle.
The panther seemed particularly prone to this.

Read "Faint Praise, US Tanks and Tank Destroyers in WW2"
It recounts the several independent experiments carried out by troops in the field in Normandy trying to find allied weapons that could penetrate a Panther frontally.
Even with accumulated hits against the same hull they had a sobering time trying to cleanly penetrate.

[DPQ5]

the panther also had some gear deisghn flaws wich wouldent alow it to go full speed, it could but the germans wee told not to.
The gears were for a smaller lighter tank

[Denniss]

the panther also had some gear deisghn flaws wich wouldent alow it to go full speed, it could but the germans wee told not to.
The gears were for a smaller lighter tank

Where did you hear this strange story ?

[Blooz]

Where did you hear this strange story ?

Any history from the Battle of Kursk will have it. Panthers were new then (Panther D model) and too many were lost due to engine and transmission failure in that battle. These deficiencies were corrected later, of course, in the Panther A model.

[DPQ5]

Where did you hear this strange story ?

well 1 thing i herd it from a relative who was a panther commander during ww2
and also a show called tank overhaul on military channel

[Denniss]

Any history from the Battle of Kursk will have it. Panthers were new then (Panther D model) and too many were lost due to engine and transmission failure in that battle. These deficiencies were corrected later, of course, in the Panther A model.

Yes, this is correct and I know that. But the other user posted something that's not related to the Panther.
The initial Panther was unreliable because it was rushed into service for Kursk, it didn't get the time to iron out this problems.