Has
ANYONE actually searched for "B29" or "B-29" yet??
Cause I just did, and got 3 results. So people, unless I did something wrong when I searched, why don't you actually take 10 seconds and search yourselves, BEFORE accusing someone else of not searching.
A nuke did no more damage than a standard air raid so if you really want the damage, get some squadies or friends to up b24's or lanc's with you, but I don't think any of us want a plane where a few guys can take down the whole map.
HT's said it isn't ever gonna come, so DROP it.
You seriously think that a nuke did no more damage than a standard air raid? Ok, maybe the firebombings had a higher death toll, I'm not sure, but they can hardly be considered 'standard'. Most air raids at least left the shells of buildings standing. Not so in Hiroshima. Not so in Nagasaki. Large parts of those cities were FLATTENED. So, Mr Arrogant Idiot, why don't YOU do a search next time, on Google, and make sure your facts are correct
before you use them to criticise someone else.
We had a big, long discussion about it in the O'club. One thing that was agreed on: The projected U.S. invasion of Japan, would have cost AT LEAST 500,000 U.S. casualties, with some projections' going as high as 1 million +. Japanese casualties were projected at a rate of at least 10-15x what ours' would have been. The A-bombs' didn't kill hundreds; they killed tens of thousands (@80,000, each.) That, however, was a lot less than any invasion. So in a sense, it was the best, most humanitarian way to end the war.
As far as the plane itself goes, the B-29 was an important plane. However, it has been asked for many times before. The search function should help, there.
I'm very glad you had a nice little chat about it in the O'Club. I would like to express my regrets, however, that nothing remotely intelligent came out of it. I won't even ask how you arrived at those figures, but I would like to point out that I don't believe you can justify killing civilians just because the death toll may/may not have been "a lot less than any invasion."
And "the best, most humanitarian way to end the war"?
Seriously? ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL. Think about that someday, why don't you?
Go find a tree an start a huggin' man. I am glad they were dropped. They were warned to surrender and yet they did not. Blame their leadership for not backing down. That move shortened the war and saved us numerous troops lives that would have inevitably been needed to actually continue with the invasions of the Japanese home island. I am proud of the engineers that designed the bombs, the ones that modified the B-29 to cary it and the actual unmodified aircraft as well. I do not believe that Japan is owed squat for an apology, they started a war and we finished it. Case closed.
But yeah, I would like to see an un-modified conventional payload ONLY B-29. Perhaps have it only enabled at certian rear bases like the 163 to prevent it's use as a suicide dive bomber. Oh yeah and perk the snot out of it. 
Go find a cactus and hug it, you ass. Do you really, really think that atomic bomb should have been dropped on civilians, not unlike you or me? A military target would have been justifiable. But a civilian target, which did debateable (sp?) amounts of damage to the Japanese war effort, but which had undeniably devastating consequences for tens of thousands of innocent people, is unjustifiable.
I do not think that the Japanese Government is owed an apology for the detonation of two nuclear weapons on its soil. As you said , they started a war, and we finished it. However, I believe that an apology is required from the United States Government to all those killed by the bombs, and to all the families who were affected by it.
In my opinion, dropping the bombs a few miles offshore, within sight of the Japanese Emperor, would have been just as effective.
I know this is aggressive and long winded, but I don't like to see people accusing others of not doing something that they themselves haven't done, or claiming/implying that one person is more important than another, or trying to justify the killing of tens of thousands of civilians.
