Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.

[AWMac]

Dam it seems to me that I recall sermons to all the Churches that I've attended in the past 20 Years while hungover or what not.

Who is Bullchittin who on this issue?

Mac

[Xargos]

OHH really> Let me pump a FACT into your ears. I live in NW Indinana, I'm an audio engineer, as a side job I installed the audio in that church, it's 20 min from me. That church is at very least 70-80% whites. Now what?

It's still a racist church, no matter who is there.  And how do you know they're really white?  Obama is not really Black and he belongs to it.

[Shuckins]

Well, I've watched quite a bit of video of church services held at Trinity United Church of Christ....and when the camera pans the congregation it appears to be about 80 to 90% black.  Its gospel is, according to its own mission statement, unashamedly Christian and devoted to Afrocentrism.  Visit its websight and you will find that the pastoral staff is ALL black, its scholarship programs devoted to providing scholarships for African-American students who must write a short essay on how they will use the scholarship to benefit the African-American community, and the Church has an awards program to honor those whose work have benefitted African-American society.

None of which is wrong, in and of itself, and the church does quite a bit of good, especially with programs designed to alleviate violence among youth, and family counseling. 

Sorry FT, but I don't really believe you when you say that the church is 70-80% WHITE.  Are you sure you're not just BS'in us to make a point?

[lazs2]

it boils down tooo...

He belonged to a racist church for 20 years and had a racist as a "mentor" and a wife who thought America was a terrible place with no hope.

Now..  he claims he is unaware of these things.

That means...

1)  He is a liar and and is comfortable surrounding himself with Amerihaters and racists.

2)  He is one stupid half negro guy.

3)  He one again plus... he thinks we are really really stupid.

I have seen the tap dancing by him on the subject and am not impressed.

And animal..  I agree that racism is boring.  I don't hang out with racists much but a few of my friends from the old days are full blown..  they are pretty interesting guys but pretty boring when on the racist kick.   I don't male excuses for them.  they are what they are.  I don't pretend I never heard em say racist things.. some are even pretty darn funny and I laugh.  mostly tho... I just shake my head and say "sheesh.. give it a rest"

lazs

lazs

[TwentyFo]

Sorry FT, but I don't really believe you when you say that the church is 70-80% WHITE.  Are you sure you're not just BS'in us to make a point?

Obama's church is part of a network of churches. They all share the same name. I don't know how many churches there are.

[TwentyFo]

it boils down tooo...

He belonged to a racist church for 20 years and had a racist as a "mentor" and a wife who thought America was a terrible place with no hope.

Now..  he claims he is unaware of these things.

That means...

1)  He is a liar and and is comfortable surrounding himself with Amerihaters and racists.

2)  He is one stupid half negro guy.

3)  He one again plus... he thinks we are really really stupid.

I have seen the tap dancing by him on the subject and am not impressed.

And animal..  I agree that racism is boring.  I don't hang out with racists much but a few of my friends from the old days are full blown..  they are pretty interesting guys but pretty boring when on the racist kick.   I don't male excuses for them.  they are what they are.  I don't pretend I never heard em say racist things.. some are even pretty darn funny and I laugh.  mostly tho... I just shake my head and say "sheesh.. give it a rest"

lazs

lazs

President of the Harvard Law Review.....he sounds extremely dumb to me 

Amerihaters? What's wrong with seeing flaws in this country? It's people that think America is perfect that hurt this country. They aren't willing to evolve out of their narrow simple mind.

[lazs2]

soo.. you are saying that it is number one or number three?

I would agree with that.

I go for number three.. he is a racist and hates White America and.. he thinks we are really really dumb to not notice.

He is partly right.. a lot of folks are.. some white PC guys who can't see past the slogan and some colored folk who are so filled with hate and despair that they can't see reality either.  He is a panderer like all politicians but with a particularly repugnant racist message of bigotry and blame.

lazs

[AKIron]

OHH really> Let me pump a FACT into your ears. I live in NW Indinana, I'm an audio engineer, as a side job I installed the audio in that church, it's 20 min from me. That church is at very least 70-80% whites. Now what?

Now is where you admit you got the wrong church or lied?

[TwentyFo]

I go for number three.. he is a racist and hates White America and.. he thinks we are really really dumb to not notice.
lazs

Who do you think contributed the millions and millions of dollars to his campaign?

[john9001]

Who do you think contributed the millions and millions of dollars to his campaign?

al qaeda?

[lazs2]

twenty fo..   little dumb white girls buy rap music too and dumb white guys smile and look uncomfortable when negros make fun of em.. It all has to do with lack of self esteem and guilt and the need to be PC.

I don't share any of that crap so I just see it like it is.

lazs

[Arlo]

It's still a racist church, no matter who is there.  And how do you know they're really white?  Obama is not really Black and he belongs to it.

The circular illogic baffles but amuses. Funny how tight a circle one'll turn when it's an emotion-driven argument. It must be an Aces High habit some have spread throughout their real lives. If it's the best they got they do it over and over. Hope you're in a zeke. Whoops, don't look now ... your tail is missing.

[AKIron]

Arlo, emotion has nothing to do with this for me. After all the PC BS and anti-racism diatribes we've all had to live with for the last several decades do you imagine I'm going to left a far lefty off the hook just because his association is with black racism? Racism is racism regardless of who practices it and no way in hell will I or many, many others give Obama a free pass on this important issue. The chicken has come home to roost.

[Arlo]

Arlo, emotion has nothing to do with this for me. After all the PC BS and anti-racism diatribes we've all had to live with for the last several decades do you imagine I'm going to left a far lefty off the hook just because his association is with black racism? Racism is racism regardless of who practices it and no way in hell will I or many, many others give Obama a free pass on this important issue. The chicken has come home to roost.

No ... I'm not seeing a logical argument from you. I'm seeing a lot of emotion-driven perception clouding your judgement. I can even see it in this supposedly carefully worded post. Just sayin'. But carry on.  

[indy007]

It's pretty obvious why Obama attended that church, and it seems like a lot of y'all missed the mark.

If you want to be a successful, black politician in Chicago, you go to that church for the connections and contacts. It's pretty simple.

Doesn't make Obama some crazy racist out for reparations. It just makes him a typical, slimeball politician.