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Offline smoke6

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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #150 on: March 18, 2008, 04:54:36 PM »
i wasn't here before the eny thing. how did people behave before that & how has the eny stopped it?

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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #151 on: March 18, 2008, 04:55:25 PM »
And their cheeks.  Just something unnatural about those cheeks.  How they fit all those nuts in those cheeks unnerves me. :noid

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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #152 on: March 18, 2008, 05:00:25 PM »
I cringe when I see them bury their nuts........ which makes me wonder... how busy would a squirrel be if he were turned loose on the boards.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #153 on: March 18, 2008, 05:13:40 PM »
u dont know me iron.  i've never complaind about "hoards"  get another catch phrase.  its getting old.

Well, the fact that you are here complaining about ENY explains why. If you fly with the "Horde", you never have to complain about being out numbered. :)
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #154 on: March 18, 2008, 05:19:17 PM »
Well, the fact that you are here complaining about ENY explains why. If you fly with the "Horde", you never have to complain about being out numbered. :)

OOOH! Zing!  :devil  Now back to those squirrels...<shudder>
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #155 on: March 18, 2008, 07:37:51 PM »
But at least were now getting on a different track. Instead of discussing ENY limiter as such we are discussing individual plane values. And as those can not be assigned 100% objectively (What's considered a better plane? The faster or the better turning one?) there is always something to argue about. But take note that ENY values are not cast in stone. They have been changed various times to better reflect the MA realities. Take the C.205 for example. Once it was my supreme perk farmer when it's ENY was at 40(!), but now these days are gone since 2006 ;)

Right.  I have no problem with limiting the best aircraft when numbers are out of balance.  My problem is only with the ratings the aircraft have received, and I know that I could do better if I were given that kind of god-like power.  Trust me. :devil

Parallel to the 190D-9/Ta-152 crazyness is the P-51D vs the P-47N, with the former having an ENY of 8, and the latter 5.  Do I need to explain why this doesn't make sense?
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #156 on: March 19, 2008, 12:44:55 AM »
NO, keep it.

This poll will have no effect on whether or not HiTech keeps/discards/tweaks ENY.  :)
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« Reply #157 on: March 19, 2008, 12:47:54 AM »
ENY is an improvement over how things use to be.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #158 on: March 19, 2008, 12:57:04 AM »
 :cry ENY :cry
Stop flying dweeb rides and running with the horde
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #159 on: March 19, 2008, 01:13:58 AM »
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #160 on: March 19, 2008, 01:18:37 AM »
i wasn't here before the eny thing. how did people behave before that & how has the eny stopped it?
Picture logging on nearly every night with one country outnumbering the other two combined...by as much as 100 or more people on the weekends.

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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #161 on: March 19, 2008, 04:12:26 AM »
"I cringe when I see them bury their nuts........ which makes me wonder... how busy would a squirrel be if he were turned loose on the boards."

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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #162 on: March 19, 2008, 06:12:18 AM »
Picture logging on nearly every night with one country outnumbering the other two combined...by as much as 100 or more people on the weekends.

Indeed.

Imagine flying for the country that had the huge numbers (Rooks iirc) and trying to score a kill while 20 of your team mates try to beat you to it. Imagine what it was like to fly for either the Bishops or Knights and getting steam rolled by the Rook juggernaught every night.

That is why we now have ENY. ENY hasn't forced sides to be equal every night but it has prevented one team from becoming so populas that it outnumbers both of the other 2 combined.

HiTech has said (paraphrasing here) that they didn't want to force us to do things, but instead, to give us options and incentives. ENY accomplishes that most excellently.

Your options are: 1) Change countries to help balance things out. 2) Don't change countries and pay a penalty in a restricted plane set.

In regards to number 1, many are not inclined to switch sides for various reasons. The incentives to do so however are, reduced costs for perk planes, more perks earned per kill, an unrestricted plane set and the opportunity to meet folks on other teams.

In regards to number 2, you pay the penalty based on YOUR choice to not switch sides. The penalty also includes fewer perks earned per kill in addition to the restricted plane set. You also don't get to build relationships with folks from the other teams. There are many people worth knowing on all 3 teams.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #163 on: March 19, 2008, 06:43:41 AM »
Indeed.

Imagine flying for the country that had the huge numbers (Rooks iirc) and trying to score a kill while 20 of your team mates try to beat you to it. Imagine what it was like to fly for either the Bishops or Knights and getting steam rolled by the Rook juggernaught every night.

That is why we now have ENY. ENY hasn't forced sides to be equal every night but it has prevented one team from becoming so populas that it outnumbers both of the other 2 combined.

HiTech has said (paraphrasing here) that they didn't want to force us to do things, but instead, to give us options and incentives. ENY accomplishes that most excellently.

Your options are: 1) Change countries to help balance things out. 2) Don't change countries and pay a penalty in a restricted plane set.

I also agree to a point that ENY does work in a lot of ways, I wonder that could there be a slight chance that adjusting from for actual people in flight may be a option?
In regards to number 1, many are not inclined to switch sides for various reasons. The incentives to do so however are, reduced costs for perk planes, more perks earned per kill, an unrestricted plane set and the opportunity to meet folks on other teams.

In regards to number 2, you pay the penalty based on YOUR choice to not switch sides. The penalty also includes fewer perks earned per kill in addition to the restricted plane set. You also don't get to build relationships with folks from the other teams. There are many people worth knowing on all 3 teams.
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Re: TAKING A ENY POLL
« Reply #164 on: March 19, 2008, 06:56:39 AM »
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