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Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #60 on: March 20, 2008, 07:18:14 AM »
A agree with this post completely.

I'd even go so far as to say every channel, both vox and text should be able to be squelched.

I dont feel like looking for the thread now but Hitech already said that rage squelch just aint gonna happen.
Individual squelch would be the best option but I doubt thats gonna happen either.

The best bet right now like it or not is headphones,(nobody is more responsable for protecting their kid then the parents themselves)
 And reporting abusers who become excessive in their language.

Question is. exactly what is excessive?
Do you really want to report people every time something slips out?
You would get 90% of the arena banned as I have heard almost everyone slip up at least once at one time or another. (note I said "almost everyone")

HT in his own words said the object of the game is to "piss the other guy off"
And lets face it. It works. and whenever you get tempers involved and people pissed off. Your going to have the occasional cuss.

While I dont condone foul language in game. It doesnt bother me Anymore then when I or my kids have heard ot on TV
unless the person keeps ranting on and on.

I think alot of people feel the same way.

In game I noticed it seems to come in waves. I can go for weeks without hearing more then the occasional slip up.
then there will be a string of one or two nights where everyone seems to think they are in a biker bar.
Maybe the moon phase or something I dont know LOL

But the best and most effective policeman I've seen so far . Have been the players themselves. Not in reporting. But in simply telling the offender/s to knock it off.
But that seems to be more effective in the way its said
Usually from what Ive seen is "hey, please watch the language. my kid is around" more often then not gets an apology and a ceasation of cussing.

Where as in throwing out an insult like "Hey you jerk watch your language"  often only gets more cussing  and arguing.

Sometimes its not in what you say but how you say it.
Remember your probably dealing with someone thats already pissed off. Meeting anger with anger usually only ends up with everyone angry and nothing accomplished.

All that being said. Most people will slip up from time to time. And I dont really think they are the problem.
the problem is when it becomes excessive.

Then when reasoning fails there are several options.Move to a different area on the map. or report the abuser.

Honestly.
Headphones are the best thing for "protecting" the family though.
So long as there is a vox. Your never going to not ever hear it.

I thought the same thing about headphones. That they would never work for me and that I wouldnt like them.
I started using them cause I got tired  of hearing my wife and visiting mother complain about feeling like they were in a war zone with al the machine gun fire and explosions.

Now I wouldnt want to play the game any other way

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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #61 on: March 20, 2008, 08:04:02 AM »
Yeah, give us range squelch.  Some guys are just blabber-mouths and will never shut up on range.  That is reason enough.
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #62 on: March 20, 2008, 02:17:20 PM »
  I'd love to see a permasquelch.  Its always the same few for me. Id like to think that I could .s them one time and never hear from them again. I mean..Im squelching them because I dont want to hear them. For me its not the vulgar language, as I have no kids and talk like a drunken sailor when Im not in game. Its the same guys that PM ya talking crap, and the kids who should be better monitored at home. I have no use for them now, and certainly won't in the future.

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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #63 on: March 20, 2008, 02:19:48 PM »
One can go into the "voice" options and turn the volume level of all voice communications all the way down, I thought.


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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #64 on: March 20, 2008, 02:36:12 PM »
Just ban kids... There that was easy :D
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #65 on: March 20, 2008, 03:23:52 PM »
I agree with you wholeheartedly about the senseless profanities and whatnot, but......
If you want to comment,   no I will not play with head phone's I could never get used to that... No I will not play when my Kid's are asleep this game has no rating & I like to play it anytime I like...  so don't bother.

You're not a pilot.  I love a 2.4 ounce pair of headphones compared to a 3.7 pound helmet w/ built in comm.  And they even make them all comfy and stuff.  I know one guy who uses his headset from his GulfStream(more like headphones from the 70's).  And NO, I'm not a pilot either.....  But I like to pretend...... So I wear the full helmet.

As for you're suggestions.....

4 - YES.... My CO does not tolerate anything of the like and does not hesitate to kick somebody.
3 - 200 is 200.  A place to enjoy your enemy and get them to bicker.
2 - I do think curse words in PM's can get you auto squelched.
1 - Voice recognition code is nowhere near having the ability to do as you ask unfortunately.  And even if it were, the 15 we spring a month would more then double just to start trying to incorp it to the game.

With all that said.... I still agree with you completely.  We have too much freedom sometimes.  But freedom should never be confused with poor taste and not having a moral/ethical code to live by.

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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #66 on: March 20, 2008, 04:45:49 PM »
One can go into the "voice" options and turn the volume level of all voice communications all the way down, I thought.



I tried that once, didn't work. I *think* that playback volume slider is for your playback, not everyone elses.
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #67 on: March 20, 2008, 06:15:23 PM »
.report, or just right click the name in the roster if you don't want to type.


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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #68 on: March 20, 2008, 09:24:14 PM »
i wish i could just mute range channel some times especialy when we have squadnights, as most of my squad are older we dont really wanna let a bunch of young kids join cause we being grown curse a loto n channel,

i try not to do it so much over range  but ive gotten to the point to where cursing is almost automatic lol i mean not the f word all the time but the other ones. all i can do is wear my headphones.

i wish we could mute on range so when drunk guys get on and start squeeling i wouldnt have my ears bleeding
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #69 on: March 20, 2008, 09:53:50 PM »
With all do respect intended I ask for 100% more control over the filth that comes via game coms. 

If I have to subject myself to to petty vulger on range channel fotter thats fine.  When other's such as my children or anyone's family members are that another subject.

I subscribe that perminate squelching & range be used.
Tonight my daughter listened to a "younger" member of the AH community tell someone to "suck his dick".  If that gets banned here why not give us the ability to control it in the game?

If you want to comment,   no I will not play with head phone's I could never get used to that... No I will not play when my Kid's are asleep this game has no rating & I like to play it anytime I like...  so don't bother.

I never whine without leaving something without at least a suggestion on how to handle said whine.  It's hardly ever the best way but something to think about.

There are four way's this issue can't take place (1) RANGE, (2) pm's, (3) channel 200, (4) by mistake by a trusted comm player.
(4) Talk to your squad CO and handle it that way.  It's worked so far that way :)
(3) is simple... I never watch or reply to 200 messages.  It's not worth watching.  HTC has a .s command to cover a good fight either way.
(1, 2 & 3)  Give each player more control over what comes across the end user's computer via both channels.

In short please update the radio's & the filter system.  Many of us would really like that.

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Well I'm 15 and I'm pretty immature, and I agree with you. I can find ways to seriously insult someone without useing that kind of profanity.  :salute Good idea
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2008, 10:03:47 PM »
With all do respect intended I ask for 100% more control over the filth that comes via game coms. 

If I have to subject myself to to petty vulger on range channel fotter thats fine.  When other's such as my children or anyone's family members are that another subject.

I subscribe that perminate squelching & range be used.
Tonight my daughter listened to a "younger" member of the AH community tell someone to "suck his dick".  If that gets banned here why not give us the ability to control it in the game?

If you want to comment,   no I will not play with head phone's I could never get used to that... No I will not play when my Kid's are asleep this game has no rating & I like to play it anytime I like...  so don't bother.

I never whine without leaving something without at least a suggestion on how to handle said whine.  It's hardly ever the best way but something to think about.

There are four way's this issue can't take place (1) RANGE, (2) pm's, (3) channel 200, (4) by mistake by a trusted comm player.
(4) Talk to your squad CO and handle it that way.  It's worked so far that way :)
(3) is simple... I never watch or reply to 200 messages.  It's not worth watching.  HTC has a .s command to cover a good fight either way.
(1, 2 & 3)  Give each player more control over what comes across the end user's computer via both channels.

In short please update the radio's & the filter system.  Many of us would really like that.

MGD
 

 
OPTIONS:

1.)  Turn volume off
2.)  Get headphones  :huh (duh)
3.)  Leave
4.)  Pray that this brilliant request actually gets answered

  There will always be idiots in this game,  and in every other game.  You can't escape it.  I know the feeling though.  I agree that permanent squelching should be implemented as well though.
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2008, 12:02:35 AM »
 
OPTIONS:

1.)  Turn volume off
2.)  Get headphones  :huh (duh)
3.)  Leave
4.)  Pray that this brilliant request actually gets answered

  There will always be idiots in this game,  and in every other game.  You can't escape it.  I know the feeling though.  I agree that permanent squelching should be implemented as well though.

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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2008, 12:17:07 AM »
Just ban kids... There that was easy :D

Or.. you have to be "This Tall"  to play or watch Aces High!! :O



But seriously, people should be respectful when there are women and children present. Anyone can cuss. You don't need an education to do it. It usually shows your lack of education, discipline, and courtesy to others.
This has been a longterm dilema in AH and will continue. What you do in your home and with your friends is your business. Keep it there. AH brings you into others' homes and common sense and proper manners are the norm, for almost anyone, who is a visitor or guest.

The Checkbox would be a good solution, but nothing beats the reporting feature for those who abuse the community. Turn enough of those folks in and the message will be felt and heard, loud and Clear!!

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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2008, 01:58:14 AM »
.report, or just right click the name in the roster if you don't want to type.




I don't think that actually does any good.
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Re: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE in the next patch
« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2008, 02:04:11 AM »
 
OPTIONS:

1.)  Turn volume off
2.)  Get headphones  :huh (duh)
3.)  Leave
4.)  Pray that this brilliant request actually gets answered

  There will always be idiots in this game,  and in every other game.  You can't escape it.  I know the feeling though.  I agree that permanent squelching should be implemented as well though.

I don't think you can turn volume off for vox, you'd have to shut off your speakers and that kinda kills the immersion.

Get headphones? What about the people that are actively playing that don't want to hear it? Oh, thats right, they need to ruin their game immersion by shutting down their sound.

Leave? Leave because OTHER people don't know how to show a little restraint?

When someone uses the comm's, text or vox, they immediately enter everyone's home that can see/hear their comms. If everyone would conduct themselves like they would if they were guests in someone else's home, this wouldn't be an issue.
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In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.