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Offline bongaroo

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Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« on: March 18, 2008, 09:40:08 PM »
Can't remember who was trying to tell me to look out for the horrible, violent crime committing immigrants but here you go:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/immigrationreducescrimerates

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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 09:42:31 PM »
Can't remember who was trying to tell me to look out for the horrible, violent crime committing immigrants but here you go:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/immigrationreducescrimerates

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I believe the phrase "pwnd" comes into play here.
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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 09:55:21 PM »
Rather than looking at Chicago, perhaps he ought to concentrate on a border area and illegal aliens rather than legal immigrants for a crime study. His conclusions might be a bit different.
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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 09:58:12 PM »
Can't remember who was trying to tell me to look out for the horrible, violent crime committing immigrants but here you go:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/immigrationreducescrimerates

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If you were paying attention you would have noticed that the opinion was  ILLEGAL immigrants are the violent crime committers...

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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2008, 10:55:40 PM »
Pwned?  Hardly.


The hispanics are pushing out the inner city blacks, who are notorious for their crime ridden behavior, and this is used as proof that immigration is good?  A ridiculous conclusion. 


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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2008, 11:10:24 PM »
I wonder if the study included illegal immigrants or not.  Also cultural differences (or in the case of illegals, a fear of involving police) come into play and can skew results.

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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 12:20:45 AM »
The Border Patrol doesn't carry weapons just in case they come into contact with Sasquatch, Bongaroo.  Desperate people do crazy stuff.
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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 12:34:07 AM »
All illegals are criminals.
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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 05:51:06 AM »
As far as Illegal Immgration goes, I would think that if one considered the initial act of entering the country, then getting a job, giving false information to authorities to continue employment, etc., then crime rates would actually increase. 

That would not be violent however.  But consider that if you are willing to commit several crimes to be here and live here, then how far is it to commit others?  How difficult is it to see a crime industry preying on those who illegally immigrate and that crime being violent?

Taken several ways, illegal immigration could be a gateway crime. 

I think the study is somewhat misleading on the illegal immigration issue.
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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 06:30:00 AM »
That study most certainly isn't true over here or in most of the europe. The refugees from the third world are over represented in the rapings. In Germany, UK, Sweden and Finland over 50% of rapes have been committed by immigrants (or in other words refugees, to not label the GOOD immigrants from the civilized countries) while they may amount for even less than 10% of the population. They're also over represented in other crimes.


Some figures from Helsinki in 2007:

Population:
Immigrants - 46 888 (8.3%)
Locals - 517 633 (91.7%)


Murders and manslaughters:
Immigrants - 2 (12.5%)
Locals - 14 (87.5%)

Assault and battery:
Immigrants - 39 (18.8%)
Locals - 168 (81.2%)

Robberies and extortions:
Immigrants - 121 (30.5%)
Locals - 276 (69.5%)

Rapings:
Immigrants - 20 (58.8%)
Locals - 14 (41.2%)


* The locals can include immigrants that have been granted citizenship. Immigrants are those without citizenship, with a temporary visa.

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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2008, 06:41:52 AM »
Can't remember who was trying to tell me to look out for the horrible, violent crime committing immigrants but here you go:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/immigrationreducescrimerates

Consider yourself proven wrong.   :aok

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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2008, 08:07:40 AM »
LOL...  they said immigrants..  real immigrants are too busy and work to hard to get where they are..  30% of the prisoners in kalifornia are illegals.

Illegals are scum.. notice that that also said that "black immigrants" have even narrowed the black/white crime rate (when adjusted for immigration) to a heart stopping (adjusted for legal immigration of west indies negros and such)..  a heart stopping only 14% ore than whites!

Sooo.. I guess the conclusion is... if we get rid of all the illegals and all of our negros and trade em for legal immigrants of all colors... we will have about 70% less crime.

I would agree with that but it seems a trifle difficult to do.

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Re: Wow, who was telling me immigrants are violent?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2008, 10:04:01 AM »
I believe the phrase "pwnd" comes into play here.

Yeah? Try telling that to the Australian women who have been raped by African immigrants because 'that's the way their society works' lately.

The police here had to set a specialised task force to deal with African gang violence in Melbourne.



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