The people's republic of california expands the bans on lead projectiles

[storch]

california posters and shooters enlighten me please.  what's the skinny on this nonsense?  is it affecting a wide group of people?  the NRA just did a blurb in their magazine but I wanted to see what the people directly affected felt.

[SIG220]

california posters and shooters enlighten me please.  what's the skinny on this nonsense?  is it affecting a wide group of people?  the NRA just did a blurb in their magazine but I wanted to see what the people directly affected felt.

Well, when Governor SchwartzNimcompoop signed the current legislation into law, it only affected the central coastal areas of California, where the Wild Condors live.   All kinds of insane reasons were given for making the law, mainly claiming that lead bullets were killing off the endangered Condor population.   And this was despite any truly hard evidence that is actually taking place.   The claim is that Condors are feeding off dead animals shot by hunters, and then ingesting the lead projectiles they were shot with.

Well, environmentalists say that this is not enough, and they NOW want ALL lead hunting ammunition banned in the ENTIRE state of California.  We are talking both rifle and shotgun ammo here.

There is also a group in Wisconsin lobbying the state legislature there to outlaw all lead ammunition too.

This is just another backdoor way to outlaw hunting and gun ownership period.   Just get rid of the ammunition, and then what are your guns good for?


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[john9001]

the ammo makers are ahead of the curve, they already make lead free ammo.

[midnight Target]

Well, when Governor SchwartzNimcompoop signed the current legislation into law, it only affected the central coastal areas of California, where the Wild Condors live.   All kinds of insane reasons were given for making the law, mainly claiming that lead bullets were killing off the endangered Condor population.   And this was despite any truly hard evidence that is actually taking place.   The claim is that Condors are feeding off dead animals shot by hunters, and then ingesting the lead projectiles they were shot with.

Well, environmentalists say that this is not enough, and they NOW want ALL lead hunting ammunition banned in the ENTIRE state of California.  We are talking both rifle and shotgun ammo here.

There is also a group in Wisconsin lobbying the state legislature there to outlaw all lead ammunition too.

This is just another backdoor way to outlaw hunting and gun ownership period.   Just get rid of the ammunition, and then what are your guns good for?


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http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/esthag/2006/40/i19/abs/es060765s.html

Sounds like pretty compelling evidence.

[lasersailor184]

I remember reading somewhere that the article you cited was fabricated and disproved.


But hey, believe what you want to believe.

[midnight Target]

I'll believe the evidence presented unless you got something other than your fuzzy memory.

[Maverick]

Laser,

If you provide something to back that statement up you will look far more reasonable and believable.

[deSelys]

Use DPU instead. Problem solved.

[Chairboy]

I guess it's time to switch to depleted uranium. 

Can someone hook me up w/ a source?  I need .22 longs...

I suppose I'd settle for tungsten if I had to.

[lasersailor184]

http://www.nraila.org//Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=263  From a quick search, I'll look more after breakfast.

[Toad]

http://www.fws.gov/hoppermountain/FryReport.pdf

It says in a 1992 -2002 period far more condors died to electrocution (powerlines), coyote and golden eagle predation, drowning, antifreeze ingestion, aspirationj, malnutrition and cancer than to lead poisoning. For example about twice as many died to electrocution than to lead poisoning and more than twice as many died to coyotes/golden eagles.

Just something to consider.

[wrongwayric]

They should get rid of lead ammo IMO. With all our technological advances we can't find something to replace it with? I know they make fish hooks that if say your line breaks and the fish swims off the hook will dissolve, but not sure how long that takes. I use steel shot anyway so i'm safe, plus i don't live in weirdfornia. Seems like more a pressure from EPA/PETA and tree huggers in general type law. I don't hunt and kill anything i don't intend to eat and i practice catch and release while fishing. I caught a 25lb striped bass in the aqua duct in california when i was stationed out there and let it go. Man did i make a lot of people on the bank mad.

[Jackal1]

The next step will be to outlaw gun powder due to quail and pheasant dieing of powder burns.

[MORAY37]

Pretty sure they make unleaded bullets.  You can continue your conspiracy theories elsewhere now.   

[lasersailor184]

Even non-lead bullets have trace amounts of lead in them.





But the real outrage is the number of animals that die from Lead Poisoning every year.  Hundreds of Thousands of Deer and Taliban fighters die each year from lead poisoning!  THE OUTRAGE!