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Offline Bodhi

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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2008, 01:35:03 PM »
Moot, You should do the all orange one.
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2008, 02:36:45 PM »
Bodhi I'll be honest.. Fester blew a fuse when he heard I was trying to get refs for a skin of that scheme. He said it would be the only one flown, like the orange N1Ks.  He also said other stuff like "orange ball of crap" which I apreciate but disagree with.. Nonetheless I'm sort of in agreement with him. Orange 152s all over AH, instead of historical skins...
What do you think?
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2008, 03:12:43 PM »
MAKE DA ORNGE one 5 duce woot!!!!!!!one!!eleven1!
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2008, 03:53:16 PM »
It's a real scheme...  so you cant it is not historical.

I would like to see it.  Everyone has there opinions though. 
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2008, 05:27:46 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 21, 2008, 12:57:49 PM
Here's my thinking: There was really only the stab of JG301 that had these (not counting JG11). Only the stab. The stab would have all the same color numbers. Most recognize that the other numbers are green. So I'm inclined to think "1" is green as well. That's not positive proof, but it stands to reason.

Sigh.. Krusty, this is wrong.  II/JG301 had them, there is photographic and other evidence.  Yellow numbers there btw.
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2008, 05:32:43 PM »
Bodhi, I will probably do it just to sub for painting a real model :P  I'll let the idea float and see if I think it's worth submitting once that's done.  I'm split 50/50 on this one..

Fencer, I have references saying II gruppe never got them, and that only Stab, I, and III gruppe had them.  I am sorting out all the info I've accumulated on the 152 up to now, and I'll post here what I've got that says so. 

Where did you find out about WN 025?  I never saw anything about it, besides a brief mention in Harmann's book.

Original scans of the Czech profile pages, without the coloring on top:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12420910@N07/2352631251/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12420910@N07/2353461246/sizes/l/
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2008, 07:21:33 PM »
I am terribly sorry I should have type III in lieu of II.   However the planes were marked with a II Gruppe  bar.

Ah yes 0025.. I am working on it now, once I am finished I will post all the info and pics.
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2008, 02:15:55 PM »
Quote from: Bodhi on March 22, 2008, 03:53:16 PM
It's a real scheme...  so you cant it is not historical.

I would like to see it.  Everyone has there opinions though. 

It was used once, on an unarmed plane, to fly between factories for testing.

It was NOT a combat skin, nor a unit skin, nor a front line skin.

I'd blow the same fuze that Fester did if you tried to get this in-game.
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2008, 02:17:03 PM »
Quote from: Fencer51 on March 22, 2008, 05:27:46 PM
Sigh.. Krusty, this is wrong.  II/JG301 had them, there is photographic and other evidence.  Yellow numbers there btw.

Cool, Fester! Didn't know that. Most typical sources say only the stab of JG301 had 'em. :aok
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2008, 02:51:07 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 23, 2008, 02:17:03 PM
Cool, Fester! Didn't know that. Most typical sources say only the stab of JG301 had 'em. :aok

Glad you think so Krunchy.  :lol
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2008, 03:10:31 PM »
Anyone know where the 30mm shell casings left the aircraft on the TA152?
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2008, 04:03:18 PM »
30mm exit:

The chute's missing, the round exits right in the middle of that panel line, so it should be there on any blueprint of the plane.. I'll find one if you haven't already.

Wear and tear on a 152C.. I suppose this would be the same sort of wear & tear you'd find on an H model.


More translations of the Czech text:
150 010  Aalborg 1945:
[no idea what this first sentence means, rough translation is: "To this day (come down) machine/engine, (having/fraught) (contain) (three/of the three) [ruské] fighter."]  Ruské's not in the dictionary. "Ruské kolo" is Ferris wheel, kolo being wheel.  Ruska and Rusky are "Russian".
On the fuselage appear to be the letters CS, in scrubbed whitish blue (factory code CW+CJ?).
RVD yellow/red band was subsequently painted over in one camouflage color around the tail's circumference. >>> hint of transfer out of 301?
Green four is bordered in black. Upper scheme like V3.

WN 150 005, Cottbus '45:
This Ta152 (to merge) after, without number code, (u) JG301.  Upper surfaces same as Ta152V3.
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2008, 04:24:43 PM »
Wheres fester at? :rofl



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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2008, 05:33:13 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 23, 2008, 02:15:55 PM
It was used once, on an unarmed plane, to fly between factories for testing.

It was NOT a combat skin, nor a unit skin, nor a front line skin.

I'd blow the same fuze that Fester did if you tried to get this in-game.

How do you know it never saw combat?  It was being tested in a combat zone.   How do you know it was unarmed.

How do you know it was repainted?

It was a skin of an aircraft being tested in a war that was close to the end. 

At the time of testing, the area they were operating was the same location the other Ta152's in the unit were flying.  Maybe they should not be included.


You or Fester blowing a fuse is irrelevant.  You have no proof that it did or did not see combat.  Definitive proof from that time period is very difficult to find.

Stop being a know-it-all.
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Re: Ta 152 Skins
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2008, 05:33:59 PM »
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