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Offline john9001

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2008, 05:09:32 PM »
obama is a typical black man.

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2008, 05:13:19 PM »
But what do I know; I'm probably just a typical white man. <- That isn't a racist remark.
This would be a racist remark: "Joe Shmoe is just a typical black man."  See the difference?

So you are you are saying that it is more of a question of the color of one's reference rather than the content of one's character?
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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2008, 05:53:04 PM »
The whole Wright episode doesn't make me think Obama is racist. It makes me think he's deficient in the judgement department. This guy wants to be President and he's been hanging around an albatross like Wright for 20 years? Then he goes and lies about being in church while Wright was ranting? These facts don't make me think "racist", they make me think "stupid". Just like his association with Resko was stupid. That's Chicago politics for you though. Tough to find a Chicago pol that isn't on the take.

BTW, have you seen or heard any of the mainstream media calling Obama a racist over the Wright thing? I have not. I have seen a bunch questioning his judgement on associating with such a divisive person. Tell me then.. do you think ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN are doing a smear campaign on Obama because they reported this association?

Bottom line, I don't think Obama is racist. It's a red herring tossed around by both sides to deflect scrutiny from real issues. What I think Obama is is way too liberal to get my vote. I'd think the same if he was pink, blue, green, black, brown or yellow.
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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2008, 05:54:26 PM »
So you are you are saying that it is more of a question of the color of one's reference rather than the content of one's character?

I'm saying there's a huge double standard. But you knew that.

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2008, 09:45:10 AM »
deficient in judgment or simply a racist or simply.. all negros racists and not ready yet to lead...

No matter what. there is truth in all those statements and it will give white guilt a chance to sigh relief and not pull the lever for the guy out of PC white guilt..

the good thing is that once the white guilt it over with then we can look at the real liberal socialist that the half negro guy is and vote against him for content rather than color.

either one is good enough to not vote for this guy tho.. he is the one who can't leave color out of it.. he is the one who has the white mom but calls himself "african american"   he is the one who allows people to say that race plays a part.

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2008, 11:47:32 AM »
obama is a typical black man.


No, your average black man is not raised by a white family, who sends him to the best schools and college in the nation.

Obama's father abandoned him and his mother after living with them for only a short time, to go back to his native Kenya.   He had previously received an American scholarship to attend the University of Hawaii, which is how he came about to meet Obama's mother, who was an 18 year old freshman at the University of Hawaii when she met him.   Previously, he had abandoned a wife in Kenya who also had a baby son with him, and who was also pregnant with their second children, when he dumped her.  Obama's mother actually divorced his father when she discovered his bigamous double life with another wife he had never bothered to divorce.   His father had basically lied and duped his mother regarding the kind of man he really was.

Obama's mother then married another Muslim man, a prosperous oil company manager from Indonesia.   Obama then lived in Indonesia for awhile with his mother, and was raised to be a Muslim during this time.  When he turned 10, however, Obama's mother determined that he would be better off living in the USA.   So she sent him to go live with her parents, who are both white.   Obama's white grandparents then put Obama into an expensive prep school ( tuition was $14,000 year ) where he got a first class education, that prepared him to go on to Harvard University, one of the most prestigious schools in the USA.  After graduating from both Harvard and then Harvard's Law School with high honors, he later when on to study further at Columbia University, considered by many to be the best University in New York.

Obama's father, meanwhile, ended up marrying another two women back in Kenya.   He became alcoholic, and his former wives have charged him with terrible abuse, saying that he beat them regularly, as the Koran allows a husband to discipline his wife.

Obama thus has numerous half brothers and sisters in Africa, many of whom do not like him, because he is half-white.

To me, Obama is much more a white man, than a black American, because of his upbringing.  He owes everything to his white mother and grandparents.  Yet, he decided to settle in the city with the highest black population in the USA, and join a church that preached that white people were evil, and is segregated ( it only allows Blacks to be members ).

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2008, 11:51:47 AM »
Wonder what became of his mother? Complete news blackout on her
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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2008, 11:57:19 AM »

 and join a church that preached that white people were evil, and is segregated ( it only allows Blacks to be members ).

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Man, you were doing so good until you said that...Untrue, of course- churches allow people to segregate on their own and don't need rules banning integration.

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2008, 11:59:36 AM »
BTW- you guys are barking up the wrong tree- there is no way Obama gets the nomination, even if he carries the majority of the popular vote. Your "choice" will be McCain and Hillary, just as I told you in 2004.

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2008, 12:00:29 PM »
Wonder what became of his mother? Complete news blackout on her

Died of cancer in '95 I think.
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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2008, 12:26:03 PM »
Wonder what became of his mother? Complete news blackout on her
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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2008, 12:29:51 PM »
pity
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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2008, 02:32:22 PM »
Man, you were doing so good until you said that...Untrue, of course- churches allow people to segregate on their own and don't need rules banning integration.

You obviously don't know anything about Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, as your statement about them is clearly untrue.   Here is what the Church says about itself on their website:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community."

It is clearly a BLACK church specifically for BLACK people.   

Obama made a clear decision to join a segregated church.   And that shows what an absolute hypocrite he is.

You should first educate yourself on issues, before making misstatements like you have here.

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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2008, 05:18:02 PM »

here he got a first class education, that prepared him to go on to Harvard University, one of the most prestigious schools in the USA.  After graduating from both Harvard and then Harvard's Law School with high honors,


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Re: Is Obama more Rock Star, or Politian??
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2008, 10:27:58 PM »
You obviously don't know anything about Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, as your statement about them is clearly untrue.   Here is what the Church says about itself on their website:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community."

It is clearly a BLACK church specifically for BLACK people.   

Obama made a clear decision to join a segregated church.   And that shows what an absolute hypocrite he is.

You should first educate yourself on issues, before making misstatements like you have here.

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Sig, his church has no rules prohibiting white people from membership. As I said- people segregate on their own..they don't need rules.