The root of all man's modern problems

[lambo31]

You can't tell by a urine sample if someone is high on pot or not simply because a urine test can detect the use of marijuana for something like 30 days. Alcohol gets flushed out of the system far more quickly.

It can be detected for up to 30 days depending on a number of factors. They test to see how many milligrams are in the blood or urine and have a cut off score (200mg I believe is thiers) to report it as a positive or negative. But as far as the "high feeling" I have no idea, I can ask her again when she gets home tonight.

[Elfie]

Saliva tests are far more accurate for determining whether a person is "high" or not.

Exactly, and that's because the window of detection is so small compared to other types of drug tests.

It can be detected for up to 30 days depending on a number of factors. They test to see how many milligrams are in the blood or urine and have a cut off score (200mg I believe is thiers) to report it as a positive or negative.

Urine tests can only show a history of use. Urine tests are also quite easy to beat.

[FBplmmr]

If you cannot keep drugs out of prison, how do you propose to keep it off the streets?

[lambo31]

Urine tests can only show a history of use. Urine tests are also quite easy to beat.

Yea, working in the construction field I've seen guys do it many times. The last time I was called for random there were about 5 of us. One guy with us was known for his smoking weed said to the driver taking us to the office " Hey dude, I need to run to my car and get my coat real quick", it was like 80 degrees out.

[bcadoo]

If you cannot keep drugs out of prison, how do you propose to keep it off the streets?

Hmm....I suppose if you put EVERYONE in prison that uses drugs.....ALL drugs would be off the street. (and in prison??)

[Mini D]

There will always be a criminal eliment attracted to an illegal activity in order to make money. When alchohol was illegal, bootleggers came out of the woods. Pot is illegal now, so that's where it goes. If pot were legalized, they'd move on to the next "gateway drug".

I believe some level of graff is necessary in society to keep some elements of society occupied. Unfortunately, there's a difficult balance that needs to be maintained. Tampering with the balance in the early 1900's got us prohibition and caused unpredected events that greatly outweighed the consequences of leaving it legal. I think that tampering with that balance in the 2000's (in regards to legalizing pot) could have similar effects of an unforseen nature.

People tend to oversimplify this issue and the implications when these type of discussions occur.

[Rino]

     Man, I was waaaay off.  I thought the root of all man's modern problems was.....
women!  <g,d,rlh>

[Holden McGroin]

But it gets better. All this was over an aleged marijuana plant, true marijuana is the cause of much evil that plagues modern man

"True marijuana is the cause of"...  what about this alleged marijuana?  That's what this thread is about.

[SIG220]

The problem is Socialism.  That is people believing they have a right to tell other people what to do with their lives, and their money.

No, it is instead a matter of morality.

These are immoral activities that violate God's laws.  Anyone who engages in them, thus risks damnation for all of eternity.

Just look at what happened to the corrupt society of the Roman Empire.  Do you want that to happen to the USA too??

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[rpm]

I think Rome's problems were because they had egomaniacal fools for leaders. We're already there.

[Holden McGroin]

Anyone who engages in them, thus risks damnation for all of eternity.

Isn't a fine or incarceration then illegal under the double jeapordy clause?

[AWMac]

I like peanutbutter jelly sammiches!

[Jackal1]

Lotsa-pot + gamble online = bankrupt yes 

Personal experience?

[texasmom]

Silly notion to think that pot's the root of any evil problem we (or anyone else) have.

[Neubob]

No, it is instead a matter of morality.

These are immoral activities that violate God's laws.  Anyone who engages in them, thus risks damnation for all of eternity.

Just look at what happened to the corrupt society of the Roman Empire.  Do you want that to happen to the USA too??

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Just clarifying--god doesn't want us to burn plants and inhale the smoke?