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Offline lazs2

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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2008, 02:12:27 PM »
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2008, 02:34:43 PM »
Well said. Where is crockett, midnight, arlo,  et al defending these people?

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Simmer down there Rip... i just got here... Allow me to save you from your backward right-wing thinking.  ;)

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I happen to think schools ought to bring in veteran's and allow them to speak to kids.   :eek: I'm guessing here, but I think what the parents had a problem with was the organizations mission of
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rallying the country to complete the missions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
that can easily be construed as having a political agenda behind it.

They were probably unaware that discussions between the group and the school to insure against turning it into a political debate
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"We had a number of conversations at the beginning of this to make sure our message was in keeping with the traditions of a public school," Hegseth said.

It's kind of a pity though... i know several veteran's who are multiple amputee's, and folks with severe and profound PTSD that are amazingly inspiring, and truly show the meaning of duty and honor.  They would be great to bring to a school, and meet with the kids.

Does anyone know about Hegseth's organization?  I'm not familiar with them.

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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2008, 02:38:43 PM »
So, what will be the "moral" of their stories?  If it is political, then I wouldn't want it at my school, unless it was done in political science class as a debate or such. :aok  To expose the whole school to a one sided view of the politics of these two wars would be doing the school an injustice.

There is no need for a "moral" for their stories. They were going there to discuss their first hand accounts over in Afganistan and Iraq and being in the military, not to discuss if the war is right or wrong. The parents that called to complain made it political because they don't want soilders telling their kids what it's really like over there or what being in the military is like.

Many of the people that came and talked to my classes when I was in school didn't have a moral to their stories either. They just talked about what they did and saw regarding whatever subject we happened to be studying at the time. Nothing can educate someone more than listening and paying attention to someone who has first hand experiance.

The school did those students an injustice by allowing a few parents who's political beliefs don't let them agree with the war deny all those students a chance to learn first hand what is really going on over there. That is what is wrong with this story.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2008, 03:07:53 PM »
Hornet,
I think Vets should be allowed to speak at public schools.  Just like police, firefighters, etc...  I do support having military representatives and vets speak to our kids and want my two boys to listen to these speakers.

I'm not sure this group's message is just to talk about their experiences as soldiers though, unless your research shows something different than mine....

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Their message is simple: Too many of their friends and comrades fell under fire to leave Iraq too early.
The Vets for Freedom "Heroes Tour" made a stop Tuesday in Tucson, one day before the fifth anniversary of the start of the war.
Four Iraq war veterans argued the U.S. should keep on fighting before a friendly crowd of about 50 at the American Legion John P. Burns Post 36, 5841 E. 22nd St. 

Link to article http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/local/80107.php

I realize this is to an American Legion Post, but it's what I found in a quick search.

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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2008, 03:13:11 PM »
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Four Iraq war veterans argued the U.S. should keep on fighting before a friendly crowd of about 50 at the American Legion John P. Burns Post 36, 5841 E. 22nd St. 

And why shouldn`t they be allowed to voice their opinions at an American Legion post?
They damn sure deserve it.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2008, 04:20:20 PM »
Did I say that?

Of course I didn't.


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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »
 Just another slap to our soldiers faces from a bunch of nancy boy tards.Surprised the ACLU didnt lead the charge.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2008, 04:51:27 PM »
Sorry to hear about that Rip, We just had one of the Tuskegee(sp?) Airmen pilots come to our school and talk to us about his/their experience a few months ago.  :salute
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2008, 04:58:51 PM »
Perhaps the school should make the students read the list of 4000+ soldiers killed in Iraq. Or would you guys consider that political?

I have no problems with vets speaking to students, unless it becomes a recruiting drive in cognito. If they want to recruit, do it in an open manner.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2008, 05:06:44 PM »
I understand exactly why the principal canceled- political presentations are inappropiate in public schools. Let's put it this way- would you want an anti war group like code pink speaking before the student body? Because unless you'd have no problem with that you have no right to gripe.

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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2008, 05:07:27 PM »
No wonder is it I hate liberals and PC democrats?    :mad:
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2008, 05:08:42 PM »
Well said Airhead.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2008, 05:13:52 PM »
Perhaps the school should make the students read the list of 4000+ soldiers killed in Iraq. Or would you guys consider that political?

I have no problems with vets speaking to students, unless it becomes a recruiting drive in cognito. If they want to recruit, do it in an open manner.

what other purpose would the military have for sending troops to talk to schools. Of course it's about recruiting. If you want to consider this a political issue you need to consider better than half the stuff they teach in schools these days political.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2008, 06:47:27 PM »
Would most of you guys be as supportive of this group speaking at the school as well?

http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php

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http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/heroestour/tour_stops.aspx

Both seem to be unaffiliated with the military

just wondering.
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Re: My high school makes the Drudge Report
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2008, 06:55:10 PM »
Airhead, some would consider political presentations to be inappropriate in public....period.  I would also point out that if Code Pink had been invited to speak in a public school, and then the administration denied them the right to speak because of parental protests, we would be having an entirely DIFFERENT discussion right now.

These veterans have been speaking in public places and in schools all over the country, and as far as I can determine, there have been no inappropriate actions on their part.  If we follow your line of reasoning on this subject, then we should refrain from inviting any government official, soldier, diplomat, mayor, judge, fireman, minister, or atheist to speak in our schools for fear that they "might" make a political statement.

Soldiers have been speaking in our schools for about two centuries.  That it has only now been seen as inappropriate comments negatively about our "modern" values.