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Offline Creamo2008

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2008, 05:03:31 AM »
I goof on the mid-life Chrysler guy, and his response is to post teenagers by his car? Um, hello?

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Offline lazs2

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2008, 09:20:27 AM »
an automatic???  so you can bracket race? 

The excuses I hear from the old guys like me for the automatics in their sports and muscle cars is that they get "tired" pushing in the clutch.

I tell em.. "maybe you can hire a kid to drive the car for you like you hired all the guys to build it."

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Offline Grayeagle

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 10:36:09 AM »
ROFL Laz .. my Duster was an automatic ..and for the same reasons.

A heck of a lot more consistent in a 1/4 mile, I made money with it almost every weekend.
Easier on drivetrain.
I can run right to the redline for every shift ..and never miss one.
Ever.
I can come off the line just as hard or harder than a 'stick' car.
I never have to replace a throwout bearing or a clutch disc.
For all that I give up 10-15hp.
Deal.
Next?

Creamo and AWMac should get a room, must be true love.
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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 10:46:53 AM »
well.. if all you ever did was bracket race the car as a professional.. I would tend to see your point.

I don't think that is what you do with the car even one percent of the time tho.  It is also a.... vette.

not a duster or even a mustang.. a vette.   Now, I know you must realize that it is meant to go around corners more than quarter mile once every few months..  I KNOW you know how much fun it is to drive a 6 speed through the mountains and around town.

I have a Lincoln Towne car and it has an automatic in it... very fitting trans for that car.. I escort the little mexicans in the car.(grand daughter in back seat girlfriend in front seat... only my head shows).

For fun cars..  I insist on a stick.   6 speed in el camino big block and 4 speed in old school small block Healey.. both are 12 sec cars.  I don't care about bracket racing..  I will race grudge night stuff straight up tho.  just like the old days.   I don't like any race where you lose if you go too fast.

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2008, 10:49:32 AM »
well.. if all you ever did was bracket race the car as a professional.. I would tend to see your point.

I don't think that is what you do with the car even one percent of the time tho.  It is also a.... vette.

not a duster or even a mustang.. a vette.   Now, I know you must realize that it is meant to go around corners more than quarter mile once every few months..  I KNOW you know how much fun it is to drive a 6 speed through the mountains and around town.

I have a Lincoln Towne car and it has an automatic in it... very fitting trans for that car.. I escort the little mexicans in the car.(grand daughter in back seat girlfriend in front seat... only my head shows).

For fun cars..  I insist on a stick.   6 speed in el camino big block and 4 speed in old school small block Healey.. both are 12 sec cars.  I don't care about bracket racing..  I will race grudge night stuff straight up tho.  just like the old days.   I don't like any race where you lose if you go too fast.

lazs
automatics are great for grocery getters and bracket racers i like having that big ol stir stick in the floorboard
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Offline Grayeagle

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2008, 11:22:45 AM »
Aye Laz .. I know how much fun a stick is.

I enjoy runnin the Vette up and down Yarnell Hill now an then for twisty fun :)
I use ..well ..not to put too fine a point on it .. the 'brakes'.. because that's what they're for,
instead of downshifting.. and the auto picks the correct gear comin out of the apex just as fast as I could have.

The guy in the Z06 went by me for sure .. he's runnin about a hundred more ponies to the ground out back
and he used them very well to pass me on a short straight :) ..it was a nice run and he got a lil sideways into the next corner but it's two lanes same direction of travel so he had the room to get straightened out while I backed off a bit, .. fun stuff :)

There's a 200mph club that I am gonna work on joining .. I have to do quite a bit to the car to make it happen.
Cam and kit so she'll take the revs to push past 200 ..cage for safety, the rest is in place already :)
They run on the hiway, closed off by the Highway Patrol for the day, out in Nevada somewhere I hear .. even some twisties to do..web site has all the info.
(search 200mph club ..for you bikers out there, take a look at the list .. umm .. not a whole lot of two wheelers listed, even at 150mph)

-GE aka Frank (been to 127 on my '78 Gold Wing .. frame starts to wobble at 120 or so..gets worse as you go faster .. been to 125 on my '88 1100 Shadow, wind drag/buffet is *rough* at that speed and that was with a shorty windscreen ..sold both of them long ago to go work at Kesmai, after puttin 180k miles on them, rode every day from hi-desert down to LA basin to work an back)
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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2008, 08:48:07 AM »
Keith Turk is a friend of mine from the modified Healey club and is in about 5 200 mph clubs.   Great guy.

Vettes have always made lousy drag racers.. especially after IRS came in.   the irs is weak and set up wrong.. the weight transfer with anything like stock suspension is horrible and..  why ruin a good car?

you want to put a live rear end in it 9" Ford say, and a 60's econoline straight axle in the front.. 4.88 gears and a two speed powerglide and 5,000 rpm stall converter.. then you have a bracket racer.

There is a reason you don't see the sports car club racers with those automatics that you say shift better than you do.   The transmission is not just a brake substitute.

lazs

Offline Grayeagle

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2008, 02:26:35 AM »
Laz .. dint say better .. said as well as..

As for sports cars .. well .. Chapparal had a few that won LeMans .. Chebbies . . and automatics.

As for 'ruining' a good car .. -shrug- .. I been doin that for years.

I would be willin to bet there are some that tell you you 'ruined' that Healey puttin a chebby into it :)

-Frank aka GE
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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2008, 02:36:16 AM »
Chebby?  Or a Ford?

Once again, I find it amusing what others should say your car should be. 

It's your car, do with it what you want.

Just no triplane spoiler with a tribal tattoo down the side, hehe.
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Offline DiabloTX

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2008, 03:23:35 AM »
Vette/ComeHerO...apples/oranges

Yeah, no ****...Eagle's vette is a slowwwwwwwwwwwwww apple!!  ;)
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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2008, 03:39:19 AM »
How bout this apple?

My uncle built one just like it. 1968 Vette. He told me when I learn to build it, he'll take it apart and ship it to me :D, but alas I have no automotive skills so instead I drive my '01 F-150 Super Crew :D

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2008, 03:43:10 AM »
GE is it the Silver State Classic you refer to?  I always thought that looked like a blast.  I think you will find you need substantially more than a cam and some valve train work to get to 200 though.

Offline Grayeagle

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2008, 04:06:22 AM »
GE is it the Silver State Classic you refer to?  I always thought that looked like a blast.  I think you will find you need substantially more than a cam and some valve train work to get to 200 though.

Well . . bein as how several club members have already done well over 200mph by puttin a cam and kit into the motor so it will actually rev past the 6k redline, and some heads that will flow decently at higher rpm ranges, .. it looks very doable.
The car tops out now at 187mph due to hittin the rev limiter.. -evil grin- .. and it doesnt take long to do it.
Used a heck of a lot of road in a hurry!

Fact: C-5 takes 50hp to do 100mph.
Simple aerodynamics says double the speed, quadruple the horsepower to do it.
I've 'already' got the horses at 350.
Not enough gear available to gear it to run 6k at 200 (they dont make 2.0's :)
..so .. have to mod the motor to turn more rpm.
(stock valvesprings are good for 6k rpm max ..Z-06 motor is a little better at 6500-7k I hear..but if I am gonna get cam and springs ima go a little more than 'stock' Z-06 specs .. I've always enjoyed cammin a motor up a bit past 'the norm' and workin a bit of magic on air intake to make it sing)

Then the computer needs to be told about the new toys .. and I'll be set :)
(well ..after the roll bar, belts, and other required safety bits :)

Plus.. you cant just sign up and go .. you have to work thru all the lesser speed runs first to verify your car and you are up for the deed.
All in all .. it will take awhile . . but .. yer right .. it looks like a BLAST :)

(in fact there isnt a whole lot of straights on the runs .. its mostly twisties I hear :) .. they just clock you for the 'Club' entries on the straights, and usually they are over a mile long :)

-Frank aka GE (learnin all about it from some that have done it .. we got a couple in the club in 'the Club' :)
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2008, 04:16:57 AM »
They just ran the Texas Mile down here last weekend.  I couldn't make it but maybe the next I can.

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Re: I hadda do it .. really!
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2008, 04:18:43 AM »
LMAO the Texas mile is from a dam Mobile Home to the 7-11 and back before Wrestlin comes on.  Beer Run...

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