Once a month RPS

[Ack-Ack]

There's a good reason those arenas are empty. 

Which is?  When I usually log on in the evening (PST time) there is usually 30-50 in the MW arena.  Plenty enough numbers to find a good fight.  Though, a more fleshed out early and mid-war plane set would help bring in numbers to both arenas.


ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

  Ack-Ack
  Your attempt to paint me a hypocrite is going to fail miserably. I don't fly the other arenas because the #s suck----if I want to be where the #s suck---I'll go back to Warbirds. My squad is 80% European and the #s are even WORSE at our squad hours 1500-1900 EST.

It wasn't a personal or ad hominem attack.  You had replied in a previous post that you don't fly in the EW or MW arenas because of the lack of numbers.  To which I replied that you should help promote those arenas to get more people to fly in and even had some suggestions on how.  I also pointed out that while you are requesting a day where everyone is forced to fly an early war plane because you want more people to fly them was a tad hypocritical since you don't fly in those arenas yourself.

  I reiterate it is "forcing" for 1 night a month, 12 days out of 365. I still think it would be a low pain show of support for the other arenas and would make some use of the hangar queens.  Doesn't matter to me if "it ain't gonna happen"----I can hold my own against the uber ride dweebs in my P-40.

Read my previous replies as to why this is a stupid idea.  No need to reiterate.

Ack-Ack   can't seem to find your scores. What is your in game handle?? Do you actually play?? What % of your time is in uber rides??

AKAK.  Yes.  0%.  Though you might want to look up my scores for the MW arena since that is the arena I spend 99% of my time.   See, I practice what I preach.


ack-ack

[Impakt]

Ack-Ack  you've conveniently glossed over that I practice what I preach and what you asserted I did not do.

I have only been in four "tours of duty" 97, 98, 99, 100. I gathered these scoring stats for the Late War arena for me, Impakt, in those tours.

       Kills in P-40E = 201

      Kills in F4F-4 & FM-2 =  65

     Kills in C-205 =  211

    Kills in the rides you mentioned COMBINED (Nik2, Spit 16, LA-7) = 88 (lion's share in Spit 16)


   My post made it clear that this would be an ad hoc experiment lasting 4 days (over 4 months), an EW, MW, EW AvA, MW AvA. At that point the idea could be abandoned. IMO NOT an inconvenience and it would, perhaps stir up interest in the other arenas. My squad came from Warbirds and we've argued THERE----ENDLESSLY----about RPS, Icon settings, the WWII arena, etc.. So, if we are going to switch games (with all of the incumbent struggles involved in so doing) we are simply going to fly where the numbers are greatest. We would screw up the other arenas as we did Warbirds. There are often 8-15 of us on at once----in an arena with 24-30 total this makes things lop sided.  I don't see the harm in an experiment. What are you afraid of?? Four unbearable days out of 365??

[moot]

Which is?  When I usually log on in the evening (PST time) there is usually 30-50 in the MW arena.  Plenty enough numbers to find a good fight.  Though, a more fleshed out early and mid-war plane set would help bring in numbers to both arenas.


ack-ack

Crappy planes.

[Ack-Ack]

Crappy planes.

MW arena has probably the best plane match up of any of the arenas.  *shrug*


ack-ack

[soupcan]

AKAK has made many excellent points in this thread.
 

[moot]

MW arena has probably the best plane match up of any of the arenas.  *shrug*


ack-ack

It certainly does, to some of us.  Regardless, there's no good reason to force all players to fly certain planes "just" one day a month, when they don't want to in the first place.  The other arenas are there, the E & MW planes are in LW, and they don't get any use beyond a minority.  That's just how it is.

[SlapShot]

me thinks that moot is preaching to the AKAK choir.

[Ack-Ack]

Regardless, there's no good reason to force all players to fly certain planes "just" one day a month, when they don't want to in the first place. 

Exactly what I've been trying to get across to Impakt.


ack-ack

[Gremlin3]

I really like this idea. It is true some would not enjoy being forced to fly early aircraft but I know many who refuse to fly Titanic Tuesday as it is. It would create a whole new roster of "dweebe" aircraft.

[Hap]

I'd love reading about it.  Not flying anymore.  But imagine all the "crowd," especially the good pilots after each other in rigs flying during 12/41 and prior.

The whole slew of pilots I'm talking about.

Would one of the 109's take the cake, and maybe the Hurri 2C?  What's your guesses as to which plane would be uber of the '39 - '41 crowd?

Right, Gremlin was thinking along the same lines.

What would we see?  "Oh you Hurri Dweeb?"  Oh you Wild Cat banana?"

[Impakt]

What would we see?  "Oh you Hurri Dweeb?"  Oh you Wild Cat banana?"

  While it is probably true that people would follow the pathetic urge to have an "advantage" so they can "win" , and that certain planes like Hurri IIc0 would be favored; 4 days over 4 months and then abandonment of the experiment would not be sufficient time for the phrase "Hurri Dweeb" to gain currency. It is too bad that more people don't enjoy rolling the lesser rides in the Late War; I will continue to do so. The sad thing people are missing is the fun and challenge of some of the historical matchups. The reality is that most paying customers at AH are "gamers" who aren't bothered by La-7 vs LA-7 over a map with palm trees; or Zeke vs 109s in Iowa. Its a business and these factors will control. It is a pity some of the alternatives have gone to an unplayable "hyper-realism" like TW. Seems there is no where for someone who wants historical matchups over realistic terrrain to go. I know, Axis v Allies----not gonna work for me for two reasons: (1) numbers, (2) Lutrel and friends (some of friends really nice guys)----his NOE on the deck turf churning (a war against fixed ak and buildings) isn't my cup of tea---so I'll stay out.

[Ack-Ack]

  While it is probably true that people would follow the pathetic urge to have an "advantage" so they can "win" , and that certain planes like Hurri IIc0 would be favored; 4 days over 4 months and then abandonment of the experiment would not be sufficient time for the phrase "Hurri Dweeb" to gain currency. It is too bad that more people don't enjoy rolling the lesser rides in the Late War; I will continue to do so. The sad thing people are missing is the fun and challenge of some of the historical matchups. The reality is that most paying customers at AH are "gamers" who aren't bothered by La-7 vs LA-7 over a map with palm trees; or Zeke vs 109s in Iowa. Its a business and these factors will control. It is a pity some of the alternatives have gone to an unplayable "hyper-realism" like TW. Seems there is no where for someone who wants historical matchups over realistic terrrain to go. I know, Axis v Allies----not gonna work for me for two reasons: (1) numbers, (2) Lutrel and friends (some of friends really nice guys)----his NOE on the deck turf churning (a war against fixed ak and buildings) isn't my cup of tea---so I'll stay out.

It was a stupid idea when you first proposed it and still remains one after your countless attempts to bolster your case.  I also had a good laugh with your AvA comment, pretty much tells me what kind of player you are. 


ack-ack

[Impakt]

It was a stupid idea when you first proposed it and still remains one after your countless attempts to bolster your case.  I also had a good laugh with your AvA comment, pretty much tells me what kind of player you are.

Why do you continue to personally attack me?? You accused me, falsely, of not using early war rides, and I put your lies in their place.  Many here think a once a month experiment is a good idea read the replies.
     Lets examine the "kind of player" I am. As the son of a WWII combat officer I grew up in a world where boys my age idolized our fathers. We discussed and argued about WWII, i.e., "how devastating was the 190?" or "P-51 or Spitfire?" or "I wonder what those Italian rides were like---they look cool!" So, in the mid 90s when Warbirds came out I was thrilled to have some chance to experience (with ALL of the limitations of a flight sim) these WWII AC and compare them (in a limited, simulated way) for myself. I could care less for a "game," or a score, or beating people, or "winning", etc.. My interest  was 100% historical curiosity. I'd rather go fly fishing, play with my kids, go for a walk, read a book----than play a computer game. I play no other games, nor have I ever, than Warbirds and now Aces High. Now, with that said (read this with care) I am NOT a dogmatist with regard to playing this game.There are many reasons to play some aren't for others and some aren't for me. I am VERY UN-American and anti- George S. Patton, i.e., I don't give a damn about winning, or competing, or beating people. etc.. So, FOR ME---I don't enjoy fighting against buildings and auto-acks---if that floats your boat good for you.  I will do so if my side needs help or if my squad is doing so. Usually, I'm in a beloved ride, i.e., P-40E, C-205, yak-9, Spit 9 -----looking for a historical match up, or just some fun.

  As for my AvA comment be forewarned. I'll be curious to see how "territorial" a certain group is after they have a few years under their belts in that arena. I hope I'm wrong maybe they have learned.