Dueling arena

[uptown]

HT felt sorry for the H2H girls and made a little F3 furball spot for them is what this amounts to.

[Widewing]

I've been trying to learn to fly without the stall limiter the past couple of days so I go to the DA furball area to see how I'm coming along. And what I found there was laughable to say the least. It's full of guys I've never seen in the MA that ho on every pass, pic and gang you when you're trying to fight a 1 VS 1. Is this common place in there now?

The TA, not the DA is where you want to begin flying with stall limiter off. When you are comfortable, go back to the DA and find some DFC members. Ask them for some fights. They will not gang you or HO you and all of them will offer tips and advice.

My regards,

Widewing

[mechanic]

HT felt sorry for the H2H girls and made a little F3 furball spot for them is what this amounts to.

and it looks like the H2H girls have more game than you can handle?   

[toonces3]

I poked into the DA tonight for the first time, well, almost ever, and I had a few questions.  Rather than start a new thread, maybe I'll post them here:

1) with respect to the furball arena, that's anything goes, right?  Generally, just shoot whoever gets in your sight?  I had a couple 1v1s that sort of fell off to the side of the main furball, and I asked any friendlies to stay out once it got to that point (IF I could catch sight of the friendly, sometimes I didn't see them), but a 1v1 isn't to be expected in the furball arena correct?

2)  with respect to the furball area, what is the going ettiquette for fights where one guy is either out of ammo, fuel, has a PW, etc?  I had two fights tonight where this came up.  Both times I ran out of ammo in a Yak.  Both times I broke off the engagement and 'ran for home.'  One time I had one guy follow, the second I had two guys follow me all the way to the friendly base.  In the MA world I'd have dragged them into the ack I suppose.  In the DA world, I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to do.  I couldn't fight, I said so on 200, I'm not sure what the point was for following me home except to score a kill, that means nothing to a rank, nor to perks, nor to anything. 

Afterwards (when the Pony caught me and shot me down) I was a little mad, but then I decided that next time I would either a) auger myself, b) eject, c) ram the guy chasing me.  Which is totally BS, cause I hate to play like that, but I don't see the point of chasing someone that can't fight in the DA...MA is another story.

Anyway, just wondering what is the standard for there.  I found it a great place to get in some fights and learn my plane a bit, without the pressure of the MA around me.

Thanks,
Toonces

[Saurdaukar]

I've been trying to learn to fly without the stall limiter the past couple of days so I go to the DA furball area to see how I'm coming along. And what I found there was laughable to say the least. It's full of guys I've never seen in the MA that ho on every pass, pic and gang you when you're trying to fight a 1 VS 1. Is this common place in there now?

The furball arena is a joke.  Just mindless n00bing.  They've even started to land their kills in there.

If you want a good 1v1 which abides by the standard rules, you need to set it up at another location.

[DoNKeY]

The furball arena is a joke.  Just mindless n00bing.  They've even started to land their kills in there.

If you want a good 1v1 which abides by the standard rules, you need to set it up at another location.

[crockett]

I poked into the DA tonight for the first time, well, almost ever, and I had a few questions.  Rather than start a new thread, maybe I'll post them here:

1) with respect to the furball arena, that's anything goes, right?  Generally, just shoot whoever gets in your sight?  I had a couple 1v1s that sort of fell off to the side of the main furball, and I asked any friendlies to stay out once it got to that point (IF I could catch sight of the friendly, sometimes I didn't see them), but a 1v1 isn't to be expected in the furball arena correct?

2)  with respect to the furball area, what is the going ettiquette for fights where one guy is either out of ammo, fuel, has a PW, etc?  I had two fights tonight where this came up.  Both times I ran out of ammo in a Yak.  Both times I broke off the engagement and 'ran for home.'  One time I had one guy follow, the second I had two guys follow me all the way to the friendly base.  In the MA world I'd have dragged them into the ack I suppose.  In the DA world, I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to do.  I couldn't fight, I said so on 200, I'm not sure what the point was for following me home except to score a kill, that means nothing to a rank, nor to perks, nor to anything. 

Afterwards (when the Pony caught me and shot me down) I was a little mad, but then I decided that next time I would either a) auger myself, b) eject, c) ram the guy chasing me.  Which is totally BS, cause I hate to play like that, but I don't see the point of chasing someone that can't fight in the DA...MA is another story.

Anyway, just wondering what is the standard for there.  I found it a great place to get in some fights and learn my plane a bit, without the pressure of the MA around me.

Thanks,
Toonces

1) you can't expect it.. However just like the MA.. it "should" be a thing of respect among players, but it rarely is. My simple rule of thumb is, if you see two guys in a good fight leave them alone. Hell I'll leave 2 guys from two separate teams alone if they are in a good 1 on 1. If it's 2 on 1 then I figure it's fair game, but even then I'll normally leave a 2 vs 2 fight alone if it's just 2 countries. If it's 3 then I'll butt in, because one of them is getting ganged (assuming it's not more of my country) at that point I try to help the guy that's getting ganged and leave him as a last target.

Just don't expect that to happen because their are far too many, that have zero respect for any type of real fighting ability. I guess they judge their skill set by how many guys they can pick in one sortie. It's the same "see red" I must shoot it mentality and gotta be the 5th guy trying to do it.

2) There is no real "etiquette" in the DA FB lake, much the same as there is none in the MA. From time to time you will find guys that will give you a GF and let you RTB. Again don't expect it because 90% of them will chase you all the way home, just to get that meaningless DA kill.

The FB lake in the DA is all the worst of the MA times 10 in most cases. You can find good fights from time to time, mostly when it's not very populated. I'd personally never go there, but it's about the only place you can have instant alt and typically find a fight in less than 2 mins.

[uptown]

and it looks like the H2H girls have more game than you can handle?   

I've never had a problem spankin ANY of the H2H guys in there. My point is that once I'm on one of em, 4 or 5 dive in at 400 mph from 10K to get a easy kill. How is this even remotely a DUEL?
The whole furball area is designed for the guys to SCARED to come to the MA. HighTech did away with H2H because freeloaders were screwed it up, but he didn't want to lose paying customers that hide out in unpopulated arenas and can only fly in F3 mode. Take away F3 mode and watch the PS2 rejects scatter to the TA like terrifed mice.

[uptown]

I have started a thread in the WishList part of the BBS calling for the removal of F3 in the DA. lets just see what kind of reaction we get and from whom.

[bongaroo]

I poked into the DA tonight for the first time, well, almost ever, and I had a few questions.  Rather than start a new thread, maybe I'll post them here:

1) with respect to the furball arena, that's anything goes, right?  Generally, just shoot whoever gets in your sight?  I had a couple 1v1s that sort of fell off to the side of the main furball, and I asked any friendlies to stay out once it got to that point (IF I could catch sight of the friendly, sometimes I didn't see them), but a 1v1 isn't to be expected in the furball arena correct?

2)  with respect to the furball area, what is the going ettiquette for fights where one guy is either out of ammo, fuel, has a PW, etc?  I had two fights tonight where this came up.  Both times I ran out of ammo in a Yak.  Both times I broke off the engagement and 'ran for home.'  One time I had one guy follow, the second I had two guys follow me all the way to the friendly base.  In the MA world I'd have dragged them into the ack I suppose.  In the DA world, I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to do.  I couldn't fight, I said so on 200, I'm not sure what the point was for following me home except to score a kill, that means nothing to a rank, nor to perks, nor to anything. 

Afterwards (when the Pony caught me and shot me down) I was a little mad, but then I decided that next time I would either a) auger myself, b) eject, c) ram the guy chasing me.  Which is totally BS, cause I hate to play like that, but I don't see the point of chasing someone that can't fight in the DA...MA is another story.

Anyway, just wondering what is the standard for there.  I found it a great place to get in some fights and learn my plane a bit, without the pressure of the MA around me.

Thanks,
Toonces

<S> on some good 1v1s toonces!  you may not have been as difficult a fight as a8blood or eace but they had to gang me to win.  was nice to see someone who appreciates a good 1v1.

[Tr1gg22]

HT felt sorry for the H2H girls and made a little F3 furball spot for them is what this amounts to.

lol  I play DA a lot im bringing up a new squad....Good place to train em the most SR guy has only been playin 4 months..We play in MA often also.I been playin and payin for over 2 years...There was never anyone over there till they closed 8 player.whats funny is i see some of the best stiks come over and get cocky and then get owned There are a few people over there that dont play MA that will stomp most the MA guys

[WMLute]

DA is DA..I never see 1 vs 1 being broken outside the furball area.

The problems here are very simple. Poor objectivity derived from big ego.
Countless times I pick on pickers that are jumping on a slow-flaps out-low alt furball in the furball zone. And I get " oh, nice pick Fiat!!! ".
I could bring countless example of hypocrisy in the name calling but the base of the problem is:

LEAVE YOUR EGO OUT WHEN U FLY.

I go there for fun and it's not my fault if people only look ahead and have poor SA and can't admit their mistakes.

I fly there because I practice with great sticks and joke with each other. The flights are quick and it is more relaxed.

Another thing. Give people more compliments instead. It will improve your fun.

Don't mess up DA !

Fiat is just mad I spanked his CHog in my DHog last time I was there.

(ducks... runs)

[dentin]

I have started a thread in the WishList part of the BBS calling for the removal of F3 in the DA. lets just see what kind of reaction we get and from whom.

More wasted bandwidth, me thinks.

[mechanic]

I've never had a problem spankin ANY of the H2H guys in there. My point is that once I'm on one of em, 4 or 5 dive in at 400 mph from 10K to get a easy kill. How is this even remotely a DUEL?
The whole furball area is designed for the guys to SCARED to come to the MA. HighTech did away with H2H because freeloaders were screwed it up, but he didn't want to lose paying customers that hide out in unpopulated arenas and can only fly in F3 mode. Take away F3 mode and watch the PS2 rejects scatter to the TA like terrifed mice.

you do have a point there, i cannot deny there are dweebs in the DA for easy kills. i do not however think that there are more dweebs in the da than the MA, more likely that in the MA the tards are better hidden between the good fights.

F3 mode should not be enabled in DA, that is one thing i definitely agree with.

if you want a duel, set up a 1 on 1. flying in the 'furball' area is asking for trouble.

S!

bat

[dentin]

DmdFiat sez:
"The problems here are very simple. Poor objectivity derived from big ego.
Countless times I pick on pickers that are jumping on a slow-flaps out-low alt furball in the furball zone. And I get " oh, nice pick Fiat!!! ".
I could bring countless example of hypocrisy in the name calling but the base of the problem is:

LEAVE YOUR EGO OUT WHEN U FLY."

Fiat is just mad I spanked his CHog in my DHog last time I was there.

(ducks... runs)

Goto the "Ego" statement above.