Dueling arena

[trotter]

Take away F3 mode and watch the PS2 rejects scatter to the TA like terrifed mice.

LOL

I do believe the H2H mode being shut down directly correlates to the transformation of the DA. Keep in mind that the DA has ALWAYS (as far as I remember) had a furball area. Nobody would use it. I would look on the DA map and see 'Furballer's Corner', and I'd think oh, what's that? I always assumed it would be for squads setting up organized 4v4's, etc. Thought it might be fun.

After H2H got shut down was when I started seeing large numbers in the DA from the server selection screen. I thought, awesome, lots of duels going on, maybe I can find a good one.

And even when I found large numbers of people over the furball lake, I had some good fights in there at first. One of the best times was probably about 6 months ago when we had everyone in the furball lake on the same vox (about 12 people) and everyone was extremely polite, asking permission to jump into fights, breaking off when opponent was bingo, etc. If I remember correctly it was Kilz who organized that orgy of politeness and fun flying. <S>!

For the next few days I would keep checking back in to the DA to see if I could find something similiar. Could never find that again. All I found were alt Tempies and 262's. Have not gone back much since.

[crockett]

LOL

I do believe the H2H mode being shut down directly correlates to the transformation of the DA. Keep in mind that the DA has ALWAYS (as far as I remember) had a furball area. Nobody would use it. I would look on the DA map and see 'Furballer's Corner', and I'd think oh, what's that? I always assumed it would be for squads setting up organized 4v4's, etc. Thought it might be fun.

After H2H got shut down was when I started seeing large numbers in the DA from the server selection screen. I thought, awesome, lots of duels going on, maybe I can find a good one.

And even when I found large numbers of people over the furball lake, I had some good fights in there at first. One of the best times was probably about 6 months ago when we had everyone in the furball lake on the same vox (about 12 people) and everyone was extremely polite, asking permission to jump into fights, breaking off when opponent was bingo, etc. If I remember correctly it was Kilz who organized that orgy of politeness and fun flying. <S>!

For the next few days I would keep checking back in to the DA to see if I could find something similiar. Could never find that again. All I found were alt Tempies and 262's. Have not gone back much since.

No it's not just H2H guys.. I was flying in the DA on and off  before H2H was shut down. Furball lake was full of dweebs then, just the same as it's full of them now. Sure I can understad if you jump into the middle of a bunch of cons you are gonna getting attacked by them all. I have no issues with that.

What I can't understand, is why people can't leave a fight alone that's between two cons. It should be a unwritten rule even at Furball lake, if 2 guys are fighting then stay the hell out..  I just don't get what these dimwits get out of picking a easy kill in the DA when the con is in a fight already.. Or much worse have a guy already in a 2 vs 1 and another retard jumps in for the pick to make it 3 vs 1 or 5 vs 1..

It has nothing to do with just H2H players it's the same aditude with 90% of the player base.. They have no respect for other people's fights.. It's all about "them" landing their cheap 4 kills.

[dentin]

you do have a point there, i cannot deny there are dweebs in the DA for easy kills. i do not however think that there are more dweebs in the da than the MA, more likely that in the MA the tards are better hidden between the good fights.

F3 mode should not be enabled in DA, that is one thing i definitely agree with.

if you want a duel, set up a 1 on 1. flying in the 'furball' area is asking for trouble.

S!

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 And WHY do you agree on not enabling "F-3"  Are you saying it's easier in "F-3"?  The "F-3" mode makes the game almost as enjoyable as "Pac-Man" IMMHO  Opps..you probably don't remember "Pac-Man".   

[crockett]

Also I forgot about F3 being on in there.. Yea that for sure sucks and is lame. Turn that nintendo crap off hitech..

[Gianlupo]

whats funny is i see some of the best stiks come over and get cocky and then get owned There are a few people over there that dont play MA that will stomp most the MA guys

You really don't know what you're talking about....

As for the F3 issue, as I wrote in Uptown's thread: if you can't fly from inside your cockpit, go play some other game. IT IS easier, Dentin, it gives you instantly the 3D image of the fight that you have to build in your own mind when you fly inside the cockpit.

For everyone who's interested in having a 1 vs 1 in DA, check out the roster and ask to Kennel members, they're always up fro a duel.

[mechanic]

And WHY do you agree on not enabling "F-3"  Are you saying it's easier in "F-3"?  The "F-3" mode makes the game almost as enjoyable as "Pac-Man" IMMHO  Opps..you probably don't remember "Pac-Man".   

Hey Dentin S!

I go to alot of trouble to set up chances and use years of practice that i can sometimes pull off a lucky 'under the nose' snapshot and this is 99% of the time in a low alt turn fight.

what irks me is that the 20k tempest can dive through and use F3 mode to shoot at targets invisible from the gunsite.
 some plane have a large cockpit and you can save and view to look over the maximum lead possible from the cockpit and i grant that is fair enough,  but going to external mode to make that one impossible shot at 500mph is the difference betwen my 1 on 1 fight with someone being busted up by the picker or the picker flies by having wasted some ammo again.

but anyhow, five seconds later and i have a new plane, no big deal.

[moot]

F3 mode = glass cockpit.  How is it not obvious what the advantages are?

[dentin]

You really don't know what you're talking about....

As for the F3 issue, as I wrote in Uptown's thread: if you can't fly from inside your cockpit, go play some other game. IT IS easier, Dentin, it gives you instantly the 3D image of the fight that you have to build in your own mind when you fly inside the cockpit.

For everyone who's interested in having a 1 vs 1 in DA, check out the roster and ask to Kennel members, they're always up fro a duel.

Hmmm, I don't recall asking if it (f-3) was "easier"..simply wanted "opinion expansion" .   

[dentin]

Hey Dentin S!

I go to alot of trouble to set up chances and use years of practice that i can sometimes pull off a lucky 'under the nose' snapshot and this is 99% of the time in a low alt turn fight.

what irks me is that the 20k tempest can dive through and use F3 mode to shoot at targets invisible from the gunsite.
 some plane have a large cockpit and you can save and view to look over the maximum lead possible from the cockpit and i grant that is fair enough,  but going to external mode to make that one impossible shot at 500mph is the difference betwen my 1 on 1 fight with someone being busted up by the picker or the picker flies by having wasted some ammo again.

but anyhow, five seconds later and i have a new plane, no big deal.

  

I understand what your saying, but in all honesty, someone has to "stir the pot" as it were, in this case it was me.    FWIW, "different strokes for different folks" seems to apply in this case. If someone wants to use F-3 mode, it's ok with me, I'm gonna get dusted either way..at least for the short term.  After all it's just a game, just a game, just a game. 

[Bronk]

 

I understand what your saying, but in all honesty, someone has to "stir the pot" as it were, in this case it was me.    FWIW, "different strokes for different folks" seems to apply in this case. If someone wants to use F-3 mode, it's ok with me, I'm gonna get dusted either way..at least for the short term.  After all it's just a game, just a game, just a game. 

Translation: "I r teh gamey troll."

[dentin]

F3 mode = glass cockpit.  How is it not obvious what the advantages are?

Whoa, hold on there mate,  I asked for "thoughts"..not a re-hash of the "obvious".   

[dentin]

Translation: "I r teh gamey troll."

  Now that was not called for...

I try to be nice and get insulted..tsk, tsk.  Being the Gentleman that I am, precludes me from telling you what I really think....on second thought... "get your Dunce Cap, and sit in the corner for the rest of the day.   One more thing..your spelling is suspect".

[sax]

I've never had a problem spankin ANY of the H2H guys in there. My point is that once I'm on one of em, 4 or 5 dive in at 400 mph from 10K to get a easy kill. How is this even remotely a DUEL?
The whole furball area is designed for the guys to SCARED to come to the MA. HighTech did away with H2H because freeloaders were screwed it up, but he didn't want to lose paying customers that hide out in unpopulated arenas and can only fly in F3 mode. Take away F3 mode and watch the PS2 rejects scatter to the TA like terrifed mice.

Your only problem is not knowing what your talking about .
The Furball Arena is a good place to shake off rust in as little time as possible .
The F3 guys usually just auger cause of no depth perception .

[moot]

Whoa, hold on there mate,  I asked for "thoughts"..not a re-hash of the "obvious".  

Seems like a clear enough train of thought:

And WHY do you agree on not enabling "F-3"  Are you saying it's easier in "F-3"?

F3 mode = glass cockpit.  How is it not obvious what the advantages are?

[dkff49]

F3 mode = glass cockpit.  How is it not obvious what the advantages are?

But no gunsight which means that you are going to be doing more guessing (spray-n-praying). This is not necessarily easier to fight in F3 mode but I do agree with the argument that it is easier to set up your attack in F3 mode. But the execution of the attack is not easier in F3 mode. As a matter of fact I find it harder in F3. When I first started I was in H2H and I would use the F3 to orient myself and waas a great learning tool but now I don't even bother because I can get the mental image and only very rare occasions will I use F3 and that is only to make it easier to spot con when dualing but once I have visual I go back to cockpit view and leave it there.

Just wondering if those of you who complain that F3 is easier than cockpit view have ever tried to fight and kill opponent in F3 mode?