Dueling arena

[dentin]

You're correct in both instances..   

This thread seems to be slowly deteriorating, so to that end,  may I suggest the following before I graciously exit this topic. In order to create an "even playing field" and make things a lot more interesting (and hilarious) I suggest that ALL the Arenas have the "F-3" mode enabled...think of the possibilities. 

[BarryBD]

The only reason why I go in to the furball arena is simple...

I'm new (4 weeks in the game, first fight sim ever), need to practice SA, what better place?  Right in the middle of it...

Mind that there's no difference between a furball in DA and MA, you have pickers and HO'ers in both...

Unfortunatly, I had to learn the mentality the hard way...

Only 2 in the furball area, me and someone else.  Had a merge, clean, I tought guns cold on first merge, as normal in a 1v1 (so one of the trainers told me...), and the other guy just went HO...  Too bad, but too can play that game...

I take it for what it is... a place to practice SA...

[uptown]

This thread seems to be slowly deteriorating, so to that end,  may I suggest the following before I graciously exit this topic. In order to create an "even playing field" and make things a lot more interesting (and hilarious) I suggest that ALL the Arenas have the "F-3" mode enabled...think of the possibilities. 

 

[Gianlupo]

This thread seems to be slowly deteriorating, so to that end,  may I suggest the following before I graciously exit this topic. In order to create an "even playing field" and make things a lot more interesting (and hilarious) I suggest that ALL the Arenas have the "F-3" mode enabled...think of the WHINES. 

THAT's what you meant, isn't it?

Mind that there's no difference between a furball in DA and MA, you have pickers and HO'ers in both...

There is, Barry, in MA you have pickers and HOers who are far better than the noobs you find in DA, much more dangerous... and the numbers are higher, more red icons to keep track of. AND you don't have F3 to help, there.

[BarryBD]

I didn't even know about the F3 option in the DA

I Never use it

[Bruv119]

only advantage is to see planes behind you and thats not where you want them to be anyway!

Shooting from that position won't help you much either,  plus you won't be able to use it anywhere else except in an il2 or other like bomber in a dogfighting situation.

[Gianlupo]

only advantage is to see planes behind you and thats not where you want them to be anyway!

Shooting from that position won't help you much either,  plus you won't be able to use it anywhere else except in an il2 or other like bomber in a dogfighting situation.

Not only behind you, Bruv. When you're in the cockpit, even with head adjustment there's at least a good 40 % of the sphere of air surrounding your plane that remains hidden by the planes itself. You can't see planes on your low 1, just to say... you can with F3 view.

And the shooting is not really an issue: I can't understand why everyone in this thread keeps thinking only of snapshots, while you can simply saddle on your enemy's six in F3 view, you just have to push a key and get back in the cockpit, with your target near the gunsight.

[mechanic]

While I'm not complaining, I can kill very efficiently from the F3 position, especially on deflection shots. I don't complain about F3 being enabled as it's enabled for everyone. Would it be more of a challenge if it were not? Maybe, maybe not. Again, all things are equal.

I've dueled with many of the best in the game and when I reviewed the films, every one of them used F3 to sneak a peak here and there. Doesn't bother me a bit, they're just utilizing what is available, certain that the other guy is too.

My regards,

Widewing

late seeing this but had to comment. I cannot agree with you at all widewing, i haev never used the F3 mode for a duel and if the other person was without announcing it before hand then they 'cheated' in my book.

judging under the nose shots should be a skill to hone. using f3 mode in a duel gives you a huge advantage and now that i read your post i geuss I am one of the only ones who wishes it was turned off in the DA. 

[lengro]

judging under the nose shots should be a skill to hone. using f3 mode in a duel gives you a huge advantage and now that i read your post i geuss I am one of the only ones who wishes it was turned off in the DA. 

cc - never used it and actually never imagined it could help a skilled pilot. Should be turned off just like the # of landed kill message in DA - no use for either of them.

[Widewing]

late seeing this but had to comment. I cannot agree with you at all widewing, i haev never used the F3 mode for a duel and if the other person was without announcing it before hand then they 'cheated' in my book.

judging under the nose shots should be a skill to hone. using f3 mode in a duel gives you a huge advantage and now that i read your post i geuss I am one of the only ones who wishes it was turned off in the DA. 

I guess you missed this post too...

"Personally, I don't think it should be on in the DA. Yet, I don't find it to be a major issue, as everyone has that capability. I do think, however, that a pilot will never become as good as he can be if he relies on F3."

Read carefully Bat, you can misunderstand if you just glance.

My regards,

Widewing

[Crazyhorse]

For all: Do me a favor, if you don't want to go to the Furball then don't go. Play your little base captures and vulch fests in the MA and let other people have fun. If you get tooled in the Furball big deal it is just a game.

[ink]

well im another ignorant one, didn't know you could use it, about a week ago i went in there upped a spit 16 killed 6 real quick thought "what the heck? ahh  must be all noobs"  lol

[Spacy]

This has been an interesting discussion.  I flew H2H for a couple of months until it was closed, then I flew MA for several months until our H2H buds started flying in the furball area of the DA.  Funny, but after that, a lot of people started showing up from the MA.  I don't know why.  No one forces them to come.  I think they come looking for a good fight.  They can always duel in many other areas of this arena and can do so undisturbed.  The furball is a furball for fighters only, no base capturing, tanks, bombers, etc.  Just lots of fighters in a free-for-all envioronment.  I don't fight with F3.  I do much better without it and I don't care if others use it.  I just fly what I like and try to kill other planes, which I thought was the premiss behind this game.  I see lots of other players who make up their own "rules" of etiquette.  Sorry, but there are no rules except for no swearing or hacking, as far as I know.

My thought is simple.  If you don't like it, don't fly there.  I still fly in the MA from time to time and I get my share of kills there and I get killed there.  Funny, but the same thing happens to me in the DA.  I fly there becaue I like the kind of action there and the shorter time it takes to find a fight.  I WANT to fly there.  If you don't like it....my suggestion is, again, push the exit button.

Spacy

[mechanic]

I guess you missed this post too...

"Personally, I don't think it should be on in the DA. Yet, I don't find it to be a major issue, as everyone has that capability. I do think, however, that a pilot will never become as good as he can be if he relies on F3."

Read carefully Bat, you can misunderstand if you just glance.

My regards,

Widewing

 

ooops, guilty as charged.

[Gianlupo]

Should be turned off just like the # of landed kill message in DA - no use for either of them.

There, another great idea! I second that, Lengro.