Iowa Class Battleships

[McLovin1]

First I have some thoughts. These Iowa Class Battleships would be awesome. Also we should make it that when they get close enough to each other they make a formation. With circles the destroyers on the outside, next layer is made of the cruisers, then come the battleships, then there are the carriers. Here is a link showing the arrangements. http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1430551069/bclid1442316029/bctid1506016066

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  • [img wisth=500 height=400]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Uss_iowa_bb-61_pr.jpg[/img]
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• General characteristics
  
  • Displacement:
    
    • 45,000 tons (standard)
    • 52,000 tons (mean war service)
    • 58,000 tons (full load)
  • Length:
    
    • 861ĵ ft (262.5 m) between perpendiculars
    • 890 ft (271 m) overall
  • Beam: 108 ft (33 m)
  • Draught: 36 ft (11 m) maximum
  • Propulsion:
    
    • 4 screws
    • Geared turbines
    • 8 Babcock & Wilcox Boilers
    • G.E. (BB-61;BB-63)
    • West. (BB-62; BB-64; BB-66)
    • 212,000 shp (158,000 kW)
  • Speed:
    
    • 33 knots (61 km/h) nominal
    • 35 knots (65 km/h) maximum
  • Range:
    
    • 9,600 miles (15,000 km) @ 25 knots (46 km/h)
    • 16,600 miles (27,000 km) @ 15 knots (28 km/h)
  • Complement: 2,700 officers and men
• Armament:
  
  • 9 × 16-inch (406 mm) / 50 cal. Mark 7 guns
  • 20 × 5-inch (127 mm) / 38 cal. Mark 12 guns
  • 80 × 40 mm / 56 cal. Bofors anti-aircraft guns
  • 49 × 20 mm / 70 cal. Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns
• Aircraft carried:
  
  • 3 × Vought OS2U Kingfisher or 3 × Curtiss SC Seahawk
• 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun
  
  • Gun characteristics
    
    • Designation: 16 in/50 caliber (406 mm × 20.3 m) Mark 7
      
    • Ship Class Used On: Iowa (BB-61) and Montana (BB-67) classes
      
      • Date Of Design: 1939
        
      • Date In Service: 1943
        
        • Gun Weight:
          
          • 267,904 lb (121,519 kg) (including breech)
            
          • 239,156 lb (108,479 kg) (without breech)
            
        • Gun Length oa: 816 in (20.73 m) (breech face to muzzle)
        • Bore Length: 800 in (20.32 m)
        • Rifling Length: 682.9 in (17.35 m)
        • Grooves: (96) 0.150 in deep (3.81 mm)
        • Twist: Uniform RH 1 in 25
        • Chamber Volume: 27,000 cu in (0.44 m³)
        • Rate Of Fire: 2 rounds per minute
        • Note: The primer cartridge can be either electric or percussion fired.
        • Range: 41,622 yards (38.059 km or 20.55 nm) with nominal 660 lb (300 kg) powder charge
        • Muzzle Velocity: 2,690 feet per second (820 m/s)

[Yossarian]

EXCELLENT post - you laid out the facts very well  .  And I think that it's a great idea  .

AND before any old fart comes in and says "eeuuuuummmggghhh, SEARCH", I'd like to tell those people (you know who you are ):

• I know this has been requested fairly recently, but So What?  If McLovin1 bumped the old thread, he'd have been accused of bumping it.
• If the existence of this thread offends you because someone's already asked for it, then don't read it.

Sorry for my aggressiveness, I really don't know what gotten in to me tonight...
It might be that I've seen a *few*too many of these "Try the search button" posts...

In any case, this idea has got my 'vote'

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Yossarian

[McLovin1]

EXCELLENT post - you laid out the facts very well  .  And I think that it's a great idea  .

AND before any old fart comes in and says "eeuuuuummmggghhh, SEARCH", I'd like to tell those people (you know who you are ):

• I know this has been requested fairly recently, but So What?  If McLovin1 bumped the old thread, he'd have been accused of bumping it.
• If the existence of this thread offends you because someone's already asked for it, then don't read it.

Sorry for my aggressiveness, I really don't know what gotten in to me tonight...
It might be that I've seen a *few*too many of these "Try the search button" posts...

In any case, this idea has got my 'vote'

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Yossarian

first, thanks dude, and second I all ready searched for Iowa class.

[crazierthanu]

Im in too.


Also about the 'search button' thing. Im glad you said that, beacause two many times on other forums people ask one simple question and then get a bunch of nasty replies screaming at them to use the search button. Glad you agree yossarian.
Salute to you for that

[McLovin1]

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[waystin2]

Sorry for my aggressiveness, I really don't know what gotten in to me tonight...
It might be that I've seen a *few*too many of these "Try the search button" posts...

Mclovin, yes to the battleship.  Yoss, I wholeheartedly agree with you on the BBS search police.

[angelsandair]

Well, lets just wait 

Lets see who is the first to post something like "<--search" on here....



But, you actually laid out facts and many other things about the ship. 

IN! 

[McLovin1]

Two things. One do i get an award for two clear and concise posts in a row? And two, here are some pictures of formations for task groups. We could make it that when a cv gets within 2k of another both commanders get an option to combine, if no one is in charge then they combine automatically. That way we could get the mutual fire support without the ships being soo close they are easy to hit with a torp spread. I only go up to three but you get the idea, carriers inside then battleships, cruisers, then destroyers.

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[C(Sea)Bass]

I'd rather see Big Mamie in AH


BB59 USS Massachusetts (South Dakota class)
Commishioned: May 1942

Battleship Massachusetts BB-59
The USS Massachusetts is one of four WWII South Dakota Class Battleships. BB-59's specifications are:

Length: 680 feet
Beam: 108 feet
Draught: 26 feet 9 inches
Crew: 2,500
Displacement: 35,000 tons (42,000 tons fully loaded)
Max Speed: 30kts (35mph)
Fuel Capacity: 7,000 tons of fuel oil
Armament:
 9 16" 50 cal.
 20 5" 38 cal.
 68 40mm Bofors AA
 40 20mm Oerlikon AA
Aircraft: 3 Vought Kingfisher Seaplanes with 2 Catapults
Armor: 16" at the sides
Power Plant: 8 oil fired boilers powering geared steam turbines driving 4 screws with 130,000 Shaft Horsepower
Launching Date: September 23, 1941 at the Bethlehem Steel Company Quincy, MA



Brief Operational History:
Following her shakedown period Battleship Massachusetts went into action on November 8, 1942 as part of Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa. While cruising off the city of Casablanca, Morocco, the Battleship engaged in a gun duel with the unfinished French battleship Jean Bart, moored at a Casablanca pier. In this battle, Massachusetts fired the first American 16" projectile in anger of World War II. Five hits from Big Mamie silenced the enemy battleship, and other 16" shells from Battleship Massachusetts helped sink two destroyers, two merchant ships, a floating dry-dock, and heavily damaged buildings and docks in Casablanca.

Big Mamie's 16" guns pounded Iwo Jima and Okinawa before those islands were invaded in 1945, and by July of that year she was off Japan with the Third Fleet. The Battleship bombarded the Imperial Iron and Steel Works at Kamaishi, and then sailed south to bombard a factory at Hamamatsu. Returning to Kamaishi, Battleship Massachusetts fired the last American 16" projectile of the war.

From:http://www.battleshipcove.org/bb59-history.htm and http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/BattleshipUSSMassachusetts/index.htm

[007Rusty]

20 min away in Fall River my son loves the "  The Big battle boats " 

I'd rather see Big Mamie in AH


BB59 USS Massachusetts (South Dakota class)
Commishioned: May 1942

Battleship Massachusetts BB-59
The USS Massachusetts is one of four WWII South Dakota Class Battleships. BB-59's specifications are:

Length: 680 feet
Beam: 108 feet
Draught: 26 feet 9 inches
Crew: 2,500
Displacement: 35,000 tons (42,000 tons fully loaded)
Max Speed: 30kts (35mph)
Fuel Capacity: 7,000 tons of fuel oil
Armament:
 9 16" 50 cal.
 20 5" 38 cal.
 68 40mm Bofors AA
 40 20mm Oerlikon AA
Aircraft: 3 Vought Kingfisher Seaplanes with 2 Catapults
Armor: 16" at the sides
Power Plant: 8 oil fired boilers powering geared steam turbines driving 4 screws with 130,000 Shaft Horsepower
Launching Date: September 23, 1941 at the Bethlehem Steel Company Quincy, MA



Brief Operational History:
Following her shakedown period Battleship Massachusetts went into action on November 8, 1942 as part of Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa. While cruising off the city of Casablanca, Morocco, the Battleship engaged in a gun duel with the unfinished French battleship Jean Bart, moored at a Casablanca pier. In this battle, Massachusetts fired the first American 16" projectile in anger of World War II. Five hits from Big Mamie silenced the enemy battleship, and other 16" shells from Battleship Massachusetts helped sink two destroyers, two merchant ships, a floating dry-dock, and heavily damaged buildings and docks in Casablanca.

Big Mamie's 16" guns pounded Iwo Jima and Okinawa before those islands were invaded in 1945, and by July of that year she was off Japan with the Third Fleet. The Battleship bombarded the Imperial Iron and Steel Works at Kamaishi, and then sailed south to bombard a factory at Hamamatsu. Returning to Kamaishi, Battleship Massachusetts fired the last American 16" projectile of the war.

From:http://www.battleshipcove.org/bb59-history.htm and http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/BattleshipUSSMassachusetts/index.htm

[Redlegs]

SEARCH!!








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[C(Sea)Bass]

20 min away in Fall River my son loves the "  The Big battle boats " 

When i'm not here at school in Maine my house is about 20 minutes from there. I used to drive by on my way to hockey everyday. I've pretty much been in every compartment on that boat as well as on the Lionfish and Kennedy.

[DaddyAck]

1.)  I just went to Norfolk to see BB.64 Wisconsin 2 weeks ago.  The sight of an Iowa parked right there on Waterside Dr. is Awesome, just walking around her deck and standing beneath those 16" is amazing.

2.)  I was not always the southern boy I am today in sunny Carolina.  Originally I was from Lowell Mass.  I still have kin that live up there, namely my great uncle and his family whoom live in Fall River.  I never got a chance to visit BB.59 when I lived near it, but next time I visit my relatives in Lowell or out at the cape, I will stop by and visit BB.59

 

[C(Sea)Bass]

Not too far from Fall River we also have CV59 (Forrestal) and CV60 (Saratoga) as well as another ship, I think is a small BB or CA.
Note: these are not the same named ships from WWII, these were commishioned in the 1950's. Saratoga is currently being prepared to become a musuem at Quonset Point in Rhode Island. Forestal is currently being stripped down to become an artificial reef. I have no idea what the 3rd ship is. In 1999 the group that purchased the Saratoga also made a bid for the Iowa, but the Iowa is in WA, AFAIK.

[splitatom]

how about the texas it was the only american battleship to survive both world wars and fight in them