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Offline SmokinLoon

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ENY and OBJ
« on: April 26, 2008, 06:18:29 PM »
I've been trying to figure these out as to how they specifically work, but I'd like to have true definitions of each. 

I've poked around the website and didnt find what I was looking for.  So if someone can either post a link to the definations or explain them in detail, it would be very appreciated.

Thanks!!!
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2008, 06:31:31 PM »
ENY is a kind of "value" of a plane. Planes with low ENY are supposed to be "better" - you get more perk points for killing them. The points you can earn will get even more if you are flying a high ENY plane yourself at the same time

Basic perk gain formula: YOUR plane's ENY / ENEMY plane's ENY (for exact formula see: http://www1.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/faq/q42perks.html)

Also sometimes you might get limited in your choice of planes when your team outnumbers the others. In that case a ENY limiter kicks in, restricting your choice of planes to a certain ENY number and higher.


OBJ value is just a modifer that determines your perk point gain when bombing structures. The higher your plane's OBJ, the more points you can earn with it.
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 11:49:47 AM »
ENY is a kind of "value" of a plane. Planes with low ENY are supposed to be "better" - you get more perk points for killing them. The points you can earn will get even more if you are flying a high ENY plane yourself at the same time

Basic perk gain formula: YOUR plane's ENY / ENEMY plane's ENY (for exact formula see: http://www1.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/faq/q42perks.html)

Also sometimes you might get limited in your choice of planes when your team outnumbers the others. In that case a ENY limiter kicks in, restricting your choice of planes to a certain ENY number and higher.


OBJ value is just a modifer that determines your perk point gain when bombing structures. The higher your plane's OBJ, the more points you can earn with it.

Aweseme.  Thanks for the help.  What about the OBJ?  :)
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 12:01:35 PM »
What about the OBJ?  :)

 :huh

OBJ value is just a modifer that determines your perk point gain when bombing structures. The higher your plane's OBJ, the more points you can earn with it.

There is nothing more bout OBJ than I have already told.
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 02:02:33 PM »
Aweseme.  Thanks for the help.  What about the OBJ?  :)
As Lusche said, OBJ is what determines how many perk points you get from bombing structures. If you destroy a building with a plane that has LOW OBJ, you won't get as many perk points as you would for destroying it in a HIGH OBJ plane.
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 05:14:06 PM »
As Lusche said, OBJ is what determines how many perk points you get from bombing structures. If you destroy a building with a plane that has LOW OBJ, you won't get as many perk points as you would for destroying it in a HIGH OBJ plane.


Sorry for over looking the reply to the OBJ.  I read your response too fast, Lusche. 

I now understand BOTH the ENY and OBJ and what they mean and how they impact scores.  Thanks!
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2008, 07:30:36 PM »

Sorry for over looking the reply to the OBJ.  I read your response too fast, Lusche. 

I now understand BOTH the ENY and OBJ and what they mean and how they impact scores.  Thanks!
I have to say thanks to you as well, Lusche. I didn't know what OBJ was until your post  :o
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2008, 09:32:10 PM »
As Lusche said, OBJ is what determines how many perk points you get from bombing structures. If you destroy a building with a plane that has LOW OBJ, you won't get as many perk points as you would for destroying it in a HIGH OBJ plane.
Don't all planes have an OBJ of 10 though?
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2008, 10:56:34 PM »
Don't all planes have an OBJ of 10 though?

Negative.  Both of the Jap single engine bombers B5N2 and D3 have an ENY of 40 and a OBJ of 40 (as of 10pm CST on 27 Apr 08).  The bombers that are more of a challenge to use successully are given higher OBJ points.

I took a B5N2 with an objective of hitting three seperate enemy air bases and taking out there radar from about 12-15k up.  After taking out the second radar, I observed a C202 taking off at the third airbase to come hunt me down.  It took him almost no time at all.  I took to the deck with the hopes of getting some shots off with the rear gun, but he was on top of me too quick.  Even with being shot down, I think I earned 2 or so perk points (I missed the 3rd radar).

Some day, I'd like to do a mission with some of the more challeging bombers.  I bet the enemy wouldnt know what to do if they saw a dozen or so Ki-67 coming over the horizon @ 18k (few know the data on the Ki-67 to counter it as easy as they would a Lanc, B17/24, etc).   
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 09:51:39 PM »
Negative.  Both of the Jap single engine bombers B5N2 and D3 have an ENY of 40 and a OBJ of 40 (as of 10pm CST on 27 Apr 08).  The bombers that are more of a challenge to use successully are given higher OBJ points.

I took a B5N2 with an objective of hitting three seperate enemy air bases and taking out there radar from about 12-15k up.  After taking out the second radar, I observed a C202 taking off at the third airbase to come hunt me down.  It took him almost no time at all.  I took to the deck with the hopes of getting some shots off with the rear gun, but he was on top of me too quick.  Even with being shot down, I think I earned 2 or so perk points (I missed the 3rd radar).

Some day, I'd like to do a mission with some of the more challeging bombers.  I bet the enemy wouldnt know what to do if they saw a dozen or so Ki-67 coming over the horizon @ 18k (few know the data on the Ki-67 to counter it as easy as they would a Lanc, B17/24, etc).   


ki67 is a great bomber just few people fly it cause of its bombload its fast climbs better than a fully loaded jug (p 47)
of course the jug carries more ord though lol :D
plus that top mounted 20 mm just shreds anyone dumb enough to get it front of it.

not really a hanger banging bomber but for towns and stuff two sets can take a town down quickly with 100kg bombs full salvo one on each side of town.

what u should do is prob have a town hitting mission take three sets of bombers and two or three fighters for protection. and two or three to hit any buildings missed, go in at 7.5k and watch the mayhem that follows.
oh yea and do this over a base with some enemy presscence even more fun gunning them down for u or your escorts lol  :D

another cool one is to take up 20 stukkas with 4000 lbs bombs with ten escorts and just level a base and town or strat or whatever lol.

tbm's are fun too just very very slow.
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 10:07:21 PM »
Don't all planes have an OBJ of 10 though?

All fighter and fighter/attackers have an OBJ of 10. Exception is the F4UC with OBJ 5
Bombers and bomber/attacker range from 10 (Lancaster) to 40.
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Re: ENY and OBJ
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2008, 10:13:45 PM »
All fighter and fighter/attackers have an OBJ of 10. Exception is the F4UC with OBJ 5
Bombers and bomber/attacker range from 10 (Lancaster) to 40.
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